Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[blue matt]

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30 million, first on list for delivery I believe

:furious::furious::furious: that will save people from outrage at the government

[lisvaneblue]

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"Proudly" post, eh? That's a bit of an assumption on your part, it's a discussion point.

Now, if Drakeford has refused to liaise with UK government, for example the Welsh Government meetings you'd not mentioned, then we're in the situation that whatever happens in Wales is entirely on Drakeford. That's a dangerous game he's playing if it backfires.

The only thing Drakeford does consistently is confuse me.

Strong hints that non essential shops may open next week, but unless that is coupled with easing of this stupid 5 mile rule, places like Cardiff shopping centre will only pull local people in to shop. That's hardly viable for a commercial centre like Cardiff, it needs a bigger catchment area.

Schools to open soon, but a relative in secondary school tells me that she has been told to attend on one day a week only, and no need to wear school uniform....what sort of education is that? Might as well not bother.

Dentists opening up in England, but not so in Wales. Why? Are our dentists less competent than their English equivalents? Don't they have the correct PPE. It's an insult to the dentists working in Wales.

Buy a car in England, go whistle in Wales. Car showrooms are places where social distancing is unlikely to be a problem, except in Drakeford's eyes.

Cautious is an understatement, and it's not as if we have been all that successful handling Covid. some of the highest incidence in the UK in Wales, 1300 patients discharged from hospital into Wales care homes without being tested, low testing throughout Wales compared to UK, embryonic track and trace.

Nicola Sturgeon acts as if she knows what she's doing and where she's going. Mark Drakeford does not fill me with that sort of confidence.

[CCFCC3PO]

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:furious::furious::furious: that will save people from outrage at the government

Are you saying that if the Government didn't do it's job in acquiring doses of the vaccine (as yet untested) then it would be wrong to hold it to account? Who are you? Chairman Mao?

[Rjk]

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The only thing Drakeford does consistently is confuse me.

Strong hints that non essential shops may open next week, but unless that is coupled with easing of this stupid 5 mile rule, places like Cardiff shopping centre will only pull local people in to shop. That's hardly viable for a commercial centre like Cardiff, it needs a bigger catchment area.

Schools to open soon, but a relative in secondary school tells me that she has been told to attend on one day a week only, and no need to wear school uniform....what sort of education is that? Might as well not bother.

Dentists opening up in England, but not so in Wales. Why? Are our dentists less competent than their English equivalents? Don't they have the correct PPE. It's an insult to the dentists working in Wales.

Buy a car in England, go whistle in Wales. Car showrooms are places where social distancing is unlikely to be a problem, except in Drakeford's eyes.

Cautious is an understatement, and it's not as if we have been all that successful handling Covid. some of the highest incidence in the UK in Wales, 1300 patients discharged from hospital into Wales care homes without being tested, low testing throughout Wales compared to UK, embryonic track and trace.

Nicola Sturgeon acts as if she knows what she's doing and where she's going. Mark Drakeford does not fill me with that sort of confidence.

isn't this the same guy who was going out of his way to make excuses for Boris the other day?

Wales has 5% of the population of the UK and so far has had 2.5% of the deaths, to me that suggests that we have at least done better than England.
maybe we shouldn't be asking why we are opening up slower than England, perhaps we should be asking why England are opening up more quickly than us

[CCFCC3PO]

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The only thing Drakeford does consistently is confuse me.

Strong hints that non essential shops may open next week, but unless that is coupled with easing of this stupid 5 mile rule, places like Cardiff shopping centre will only pull local people in to shop. That's hardly viable for a commercial centre like Cardiff, it needs a bigger catchment area.

Schools to open soon, but a relative in secondary school tells me that she has been told to attend on one day a week only, and no need to wear school uniform....what sort of education is that? Might as well not bother.

Dentists opening up in England, but not so in Wales. Why? Are our dentists less competent than their English equivalents? Don't they have the correct PPE. It's an insult to the dentists working in Wales.

Buy a car in England, go whistle in Wales. Car showrooms are places where social distancing is unlikely to be a problem, except in Drakeford's eyes.

Cautious is an understatement, and it's not as if we have been all that successful handling Covid. some of the highest incidence in the UK in Wales, 1300 patients discharged from hospital into Wales care homes without being tested, low testing throughout Wales compared to UK, embryonic track and trace.

Nicola Sturgeon acts as if she knows what she's doing and where she's going. Mark Drakeford does not fill me with that sort of confidence.

The r rate in Wales is the lowest in the country, so Drakeford and his team deserve credit for that but I appreciate that those of you who are party political as opposed to being apolitical will find fault somewhere.

However, the school situation is ridiculous from what I can see. Schools can open to 30% of capacity which, essentially, means that kids will attend 3 days every 2 weeks. Wouldn't it have been better for them to open schools to Y6, and then Y10 and Y12 fulltime?

The 5 mile radius thing is also a nonsense.

But, those minor things aside, the Welsh Government are continuing to follow the science. The UK Government are following the headlines/money/economy/votes.

[lisvaneblue]

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isn't this the same guy who was going out of his way to make excuses for Boris the other day?

Wales has 5% of the population of the UK and so far has had 2.5% of the deaths, to me that suggests that we have at least done better than England.
maybe we shouldn't be asking why we are opening up slower than England, perhaps we should be asking why England are opening up more quickly than us

And Northern Ireland, and Scotland.....

[CCFCC3PO]

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And Northern Ireland, and Scotland.....

Do you think England are getting it right?

[goats]

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northern Ireland where they are already down to 0 daily deaths Vs Wales which has 7 of the top 10 highest risk communities in the UK.
I'm glad he is being cautious

With the lowest r rate though.

[Dorcus]

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WHO advocate less than 2m.

At Least 1m that's not necessarily saying it should be less

[CCFCC3PO]

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With the lowest r rate though.

And?

[goats]

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And?

It’s wonderful

[Rjk]

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https://amp.ft.com/content/43bb10de-645a-43a4-bb7e-ac3978ec445d?__twitter_impression=true

there's just feels like something vaguely dodgy about this, and the ventilator stuff. seems like lots of the companies involved were major Tory donors (just my impression)

[delmbox]

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You underestimate CCMB delmbox and clearly hadn’t even considered concentration camps.

God I'm such an amateur

[lisvaneblue]

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Do you think England are getting it right?

Don't be daft. All four nations have been bloody useless. The only people to come out of it with some credit are front line NHS staff, and those who have kept day to day services going.

As for Wales death rate being lower, its a bit like saying we did well because we only lost 5-0, where England conceded 10 ...they are all bad results.

[Hilts]

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2 new cases NZ. From the UK.

https://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-asia-53059633?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s