Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

[Sunnysideup]

Not take up Asylum in France??
Saw it on the news this morning.
The French government apparently have offered the Asylum Seekers a place of refuge which would ultimately I presume in time lead to a French Citizenship.
I for one love France 🇫🇷
Come on it’s got everything
You could live rurally- near the coast or there’s City life
The weather depending which area you choose to settle is great especially down south.
The food is amazing and classic French cuisine is a basic requirement of any budding Chef.
The French are mad on sport, come on there’s football- Rugby and pétanque
Of course there’s also the accent
Wow
My Mrs gets wet listening to the French accent- Thierry Henry with the VaVaVoom and now the legend that is David Ginola on I’m a celebrity every night
Bedtime has been great since last Sunday 😊
Which takes me back to the question and the more serious situation these people find themselves in
If you really were offered refuge in France why would you risk crossing a dangerous stretch of freezing water in an inflatable overcrowded dingy to get here??

[lardy]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

"If you really were offered refuge in France why would you risk crossing a dangerous stretch of freezing water in an inflatable overcrowded dingy to get here??"

There must be some pretty major reasons. Two that I'd imagine is language and friends/family already here.

If you'd travelled all that way, risking death, with your brother, for example, would you say "ah well, I'll never see him again and I can just stay here where I can't communicate with anyone and am completely alone for the rest of my life"

Or "I've already got this far, what's one more obstacle?"

[bobh]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

I was thinking this myself.

IMO, if a person is genuinely fleeing oppression, then he should claim asylum in the FIRST safe country he enters, as per international law.
As soon as he leaves one safe country, he becomes an "economic migrant" and loses any claim for asylum.

[Sunnysideup]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

If you already have family here I completely get it Lardy- but if you don’t then the question still stands.
Why
Is France a worse place to live than the Uk?

[lardy]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

If you already have family here I completely get it Lardy- but if you don’t then the question still stands.
Why
Is France a worse place to live than the Uk?

It's probably worse if you speak English not French and have paid someone to take you to the UK.

You asked why they would risk death, and why would anyone risk death unless they had very compelling reasons to do so? I expect that none of us could ever relate.

[blue matt]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

If you already have family here I completely get it Lardy- but if you don’t then the question still stands.
Why
Is France a worse place to live than the Uk?

they could become French citizens get a job and come over and see family / friends if needed

[Sunnysideup]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

There’s another conundrum
Why the feck would someone PAY a smuggler to get you to the UK when you can get to France or any other country for that matter for nothing?
Is there something we don’t actually know about that’s so special everyone wants to come here??

[Do me a Faerber]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

I was thinking this myself.

IMO, if a person is genuinely fleeing oppression, then he should claim asylum in the FIRST safe country he enters, as per international law.
As soon as he leaves one safe country, he becomes an "economic migrant" and loses any claim for asylum.

Wrong.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/refugees-first-safe-country/

[Do me a Faerber]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

they could become French citizens get a job and come over and see family / friends if needed

Or become British residents having had an asylum claim processed and accepted, as per their human rights. 48% of asylum claims were rejected in 2019, by the way. In 2004, it was 88%. Tories are soft on this, despite all their pontificating.

[lardy]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

they could become French citizens get a job and come over and see family / friends if needed

They could indeed, the silly sausages.

They could go to the coast (or city, both are nice), get themselves a good job, enjoy the restaurants and Thierry Henry accents, perhaps watch a bit of rugby on the weekend, save up and then spend their holidays visiting their friends and family if they need to.

And instead they're all risking death! Unbelievable really!

[lardy]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

There’s another conundrum
Why the feck would someone PAY a smuggler to get you to the UK when you can get to France or any other country for that matter for nothing?
Is there something we don’t actually know about that’s so special everyone wants to come here??

How would you cross the channel for nothing?

[Sunnysideup]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

Instead of paying people smugglers huge amounts of cash why don’t they keep hold of their passports and travel to the first safe country jump on a plane- there’s plenty of low budget airlines and fly to the UK
Wouldn’t that make more sense than risking your life making the perilous journey across the channel?
Exactly how many of you would make the same journey from Dover to Calais in a dingy ?

[Rjk]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

most of them do stay in the first safe country they come to

[Sunnysideup]

Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

Istanbul to London by plane
Easy