Chaos in Government

[splott parker]

Re: Chaos in Government

Actually it's mixed a lot of rich people made a lot of money housing EU citizens and employing them as cheap labour for their businesses most voted to remain and theres a common theme here BECAUSE IT WAS IN THERE BEST INTERESTS!

I won’t mention your poor grasp of the English language but what I will mention is your poor grasp of the EU ‘cheap’ labour situation. EU workers were entitled to the same wage as everybody else, they were paid the going rate with the same employment rights, they were legitimate employees. On the other hand, leaving the EU enabled rich people (as you described them) to employ illegal workers from overseas on as little a wage as they could get away with, it was in THEIR best interests not to be hampered with employment law, workers rights, holiday pay, sick pay, decent welfare, proper health & safety, proper notice of termination etc.
Illegal immigration fuels the black economy and is a very unfortunate byproduct of Brexit. Brexit is lining the pockets of your ‘rich people’ in a disgusting way.

[Lither_1927]

Re: Chaos in Government

When does the "you lost get on with it" approach run out? Because we voted to join the EU in 1975 and 41 years later leavers were still demanding to overturn that vote

We didn't vote to join the E.U. in 1975. The European project was quite different back then.
I don't recall leavers asking for a second referendum in the 70s and niether do you, stop being silly. The main call for a referendum occured after the Maastrict treaty(1992) Which was right and fair, as the nature of the EU was changing way beyond what was proposed in 1975. I think 20/30 years is a fair amount of time for another referendum. Unless something dramatically changes.

[jeepster]

Re: Chaos in Government

I won’t mention your poor grasp of the English language but what I will mention is your poor grasp of the EU ‘cheap’ labour situation. EU workers were entitled to the same wage as everybody else, they were paid the going rate with the same employment rights, they were legitimate employees. On the other hand, leaving the EU enabled rich people (as you described them) to employ illegal workers from overseas on as little a wage as they could get away with, it was in THEIR best interests not to be hampered with employment law, workers rights, holiday pay, sick pay, decent welfare, proper health & safety, proper notice of termination etc.
Illegal immigration fuels the black economy and is a very unfortunate byproduct of Brexit. Brexit is lining the pockets of your ‘rich people’ in a disgusting way.

Top post.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Chaos in Government

We didn't vote to join the E.U. in 1975. The European project was quite different back then.
I don't recall leavers asking for a second referendum in the 70s and niether do you, stop being silly. The main call for a referendum occured after the Maastrict treaty(1992) Which was right and fair, as the nature of the EU was changing way beyond what was proposed in 1975. I think 20/30 years is a fair amount of time for another referendum. Unless something dramatically changes.

Do you, Ron, Ron?

[Lither_1927]

Re: Chaos in Government

Given the incumbent government has collected more in taxes than any government previously, in both real terms and as a percentage of national income, we can put to bed the myth the Tories are the party of low taxation.

And to be clear, I am referring to normal times, and not during any war or just after.

A covid lockdown, furlough and the 2008 banking crisis were not "normal" times by any stretch of the imagination.
It's still a disgrace that we became massively indebted due to a banking bail out in 2008. We are slaves to the international banking system, I'm not a marxist at all, but Corbyn knew the international bankers were a parasitical cancer and they made sure he'd never become elected. The media smears against him were a joke. If you oppose the international banking system, for whatever legitimate reason. You'll be ruined politically and labelled anti semetic.

[Rjk]

Re: Chaos in Government

We didn't vote to join the E.U. in 1975. The European project was quite different back then.
I don't recall leavers asking for a second referendum in the 70s and niether do you, stop being silly. The main call for a referendum occured after the Maastrict treaty(1992) Which was right and fair, as the nature of the EU was changing way beyond what was proposed in 1975. I think 20/30 years is a fair amount of time for another referendum. Unless something dramatically changes.

Or it turns out we were lied to in the leadup to the last vote

[Lither_1927]

Re: Chaos in Government

I won’t mention your poor grasp of the English language but what I will mention is your poor grasp of the EU ‘cheap’ labour situation. EU workers were entitled to the same wage as everybody else, they were paid the going rate with the same employment rights, they were legitimate employees. On the other hand, leaving the EU enabled rich people (as you described them) to employ illegal workers from overseas on as little a wage as they could get away with, it was in THEIR best interests not to be hampered with employment law, workers rights, holiday pay, sick pay, decent welfare, proper health & safety, proper notice of termination etc.
Illegal immigration fuels the black economy and is a very unfortunate byproduct of Brexit. Brexit is lining the pockets of your ‘rich people’ in a disgusting way.

But you did mention his supposedly poor grasp of English. Didn’t you?

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Chaos in Government

But you did mention his supposedly poor grasp of English. Didn’t you?

He did Ron Ron. Did you Ron Ron?

[Lither_1927]

Re: Chaos in Government

Or it turns out we were lied to in the leadup to the last vote

Both sides stretched truth. Remain far more with a lot more finances backing them. The claims made by leave weren't excessively outrageous to the point of demanding a second vote. Your side lied and still lost so imagine the majority for leave without fear mongering from Cameron, Obama, etc.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Chaos in Government

Both sides stretched truth. Remain far more with a lot more finances backing them. The claims made by leave weren't excessively outrageous to the point of demanding a second vote. Your side lied and still lost so imagine the majority for leave without fear mongering from Cameron, Obama, etc.

Cameron, Ron Ron

[Rjk]

Re: Chaos in Government

Both sides stretched truth. Remain far more with a lot more finances backing them. The claims made by leave weren't excessively outrageous to the point of demanding a second vote. Your side lied and still lost so imagine the majority for leave without fear mongering from Cameron, Obama, etc.

sure thing

[Dave Blue]

Re: Chaos in Government

Both sides stretched truth. Remain far more with a lot more finances backing them. The claims made by leave weren't excessively outrageous to the point of demanding a second vote. Your side lied and still lost so imagine the majority for leave without fear mongering from Cameron, Obama, etc.

I’d call £350 million a week for the NHS lie as outrageous. You don’t?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Chaos in Government

That Grant Shapps

Has he had a hair transplant ?

Odd looking chap

[Lither_1927]

Re: Chaos in Government

We are at the back of a queue in a trade deal and there is a war in Europe

Bent the truth be ****ed, leave flat out lied openly.

I’m on the side of remaining because it was good for the people of this country and it was good for our economy while allowing our country to affect the policy of the EU while having a lot more autonomy than most other countries in the group.

I didn’t want the vote because I knew why the billionaires wanted it and how they’d get what they wanted. You’re on the side of the oligarchs and the money launderers obviously.

What benefits of leaving have there been?

We aren't in the back of the queue at all. Stop lying.
Remain LIED with the full force of the American president, David Cameron, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs behind their campaign. What about the EMERGENCY budget that was meant to be very much needed if leave won? Lol All scaremongering lies.
I'm not on the side of Oligarchs. I'm on the side of democracy because that's the system we have and our ancestors supposedly died on the battle field for it. You clearly don't care so much about that. Anyway i'm not much interested in campaiging for an election which happened 3 years in the past. Move on.

[splott parker]

Re: Chaos in Government

But you did mention his supposedly poor grasp of English. Didn’t you?

That’s the little bit of Tory scum in me.....I lied in my first sentence