Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
I have watched that in its entirety

The Virgin birth , the resurrection, two of the basic tenents of Christian faith are mentioned

But no evidence apart from references to a 2000 year old book are provided

I can't proceed and take on a life system based on no evidence

If god existed then he's had 2000 years since Jesus was around to prove us of his existence

If Christians believe God is omnipresent and all powerful then he would obviously be regularly proving to us of his existence

It's been a long time since books were at the centre of learning

Why hasn't he made a film and sent it to all the churches in the world? He's all powerful and everywhere .....why can't he do that ?

Dvds , recordings of his voice , miracles live on air ?

Man is crap compared to God so they say ? Well if man can put someone on the moon ......why can't God use his power to stop all the doubters pissing him off ?

Instead of answering those sort of easy to prove questions we get told by the fella in that video that the bible is the truth because several people around at the same time can back it up ?

That sort of collusion has always gone on , it's not evidence at all

I could never base my life on something that has no legitimacy and substance and there is nothing in that video and that is because there is no God

People are of course free to believe what they want but if a priest tells me he has a cure for a disease I will get what he gives me analysed by a scientist and doctor first
So, well done for watching the video. It's interesting that you use the term "collusion". I've asked the question several times I think and that is, what was in it for them i.e. those first followers of Jesus? Apart from torture and agonising death at the hands of the Romans, not a lot! Would they really go for that based on a lie?

As for the age of the book, I don't see how that is relevant. We forget that back then there was a strong oral tradition as most people were illiterate. This does not mean that they were stupid of course. As Strobel pointed out, as we get older we cannot recall precisely what we were doing at all times in our lives but when there were certain remarkable/memorable events we surely don't forget those. I will soon be 77 years old and I can clearly remember certain events from my secondary school days 60 or so years ago. For example, my grandfather, who I was very close to, died in 1965 and I can recall in minute details the events the day he died and the day of his funeral. I'm pretty confident if I had been around at the time and watched Jesus (or anyone else come to that) die by crucifixion and then seen him alive a few days later, I would not have forgotten such events!

Anyway, hopefully this has caused you to stop and think at least.

Best regards,
Gofer.