Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
I couldn't clarify anything about a comment I haver never made but if you have a question I would be happy to answer it.
If it's about what happened before the universe was created I certainly don't know and have never suggested otherwise.
In the meantime, may I ask you if you think it is acceptable for truthpaste to keep posting his repeated fabrications that he cannot provide any evidence for?
I'm still waiting for evidence of his first one before we move onto the three that followed.

I don't have the time nor the energy to look back through the hundreds of comments that TP says you have made but let's look at the three specific examples he makes:

[I]So far you (from your many hundreds of comments on this issue have made it very clear) want your world view to include:-

1. The origin of life cannot NOT be anything to do with any supreme deity who I may meet in the future.
2. The purpose of my life is my choice and nobody else has (or will have) any say in this unless I say so.
3. Life will hopefully end at the moment my heart ceases to function.[/I]

Re point 1: it is quite clear from your posts that you do not believe there is a supreme deity, hence the origin of life cannot be explained by this mechanism.

Re point 2: I cannot recall you saying this in so many words. During my atheist days it is the kind of statement that I would have made myself, so it is not surprising to me that TP might accredit such a remark to atheists in general.

Re point 3: Again I cannot recall you saying this in so many words but I would think anyone who does not believe in an afterlife would agree that human life on Earth ends when the heart stops.


I think it might have been better if TP had put these points forward as direct questions to you i.e.

1. Do you agree that the origin of life has nothing to do with a supreme deity?
2. Do you agree that the purpose of your life is your choice and nobody else has (or will have) any say in this unless you say so?
3. Do you agree that human life ends when the heart stops as there is no afterlife?

Maybe you could answer these directly?


Finally, regarding this thread. Yes it was started by TP and from what I can see it has been inhabited by five main contenders, yourself, me, TP, Stevo, SF and then just an occasional input by one or two others.

I partly agree with TP's sentiment that if anyone started a thread on tooth fairies, santa or leprechauns you would either ignore it or quickly lose interest, but you have no choice when it comes to these eternal matters because deep down you (and others) know it is real and you are in this 'for keeps'.

I would substitute the word suspect for know.

I find it intriguing that despite wanting nothing to do with Christianity, you and others keep reading, and responding to, threads such as these! I don't have the tenacity that TP has and am very much of the shake the dust off your shoes fraternity, for example I never respond to posts by SF any more as it is a waste of time and effort. Others like yourself are at least open to some discussion even though we mostly disagree which is fine. I simply know that becoming a Christian has completely changed my attitude to life (and others too) for the better and nothing would please me more if some of the folk who read these threads go on to investigate Christianity for themselves with open minds. I've done my bit!

This is from a well known Christian song In Christ alone, a song* which I often sing to myself to remind me of what my faith means to me:

No guilt in life, no fear in death
This is the power of Christ in me
From life's first cry to final breath
Jesus commands my destiny
No power of hell, no scheme of man
Can ever pluck me from His hand
Till He returns or calls me home
Here in the power of Christ I'll stand


from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mPr...us%20Draw%20Me.