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  • Re: 20mph online petition

    Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
    No idea. We live in Wales and the UK, so only interested in those areas. 426000 people disagree with you. 2700 agree with you.
    Two million+ people haven’t signed any petition because it most probably doesn't bother them too much because they’ve got a lot of other things that are more important to them going on in their life.

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    • Re: 20mph online petition

      Originally posted by Hilts View Post
      There are no Pedestrians on motorways. So they are not going to get hit are they?
      Amazingly one pedestrian was killed on a motorway in Wales in 2022.

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      • Re: 20mph online petition

        Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
        Amazingly one pedestrian was killed on a motorway in Wales in 2022.
        But how fast was he going

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        • Re: 20mph online petition

          Originally posted by splott parker View Post
          But how fast was he going
          I've been thinking of you and this speed limit. What with you being self employed and that. You must have lost a fair few quid already, probably not worth you going out to work and that, unless you leave an hour early and an hour later. Keep us informed splotty, we can always have a whip round for you mate.Christmas won't be long.

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          • Re: 20mph online petition

            Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
            I've been thinking of you and this speed limit. What with you being self employed and that. You must have lost a fair few quid already, probably not worth you going out to work and that, unless you leave an hour early and an hour later. Keep us informed splotty, we can always have a whip round for you mate.Christmas won't be long.
            I’ve cut down the days now, I leave on Sunday for a Wednesday start, finish about one on Thursday, get home around about Saturday dinner time.....mind you this is for a job near Victoria Park, any further away, say, Fairwater or Ely and board & lodge would obviously kick in. I’m actually driving to work at the moment, just hit The Royal Oak after driving all last night & today, that bloody WAG won’t capture me. Thanks for your sincere concern

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            • Re: 20mph online petition

              Originally posted by splott parker View Post
              I’ve cut down the days now, I leave on Sunday for a Wednesday start, finish about one on Thursday, get home around about Saturday dinner time.....mind you this is for a job near Victoria Park, any further away, say, Fairwater or Ely and board & lodge would obviously kick in. I’m actually driving to work at the moment, just hit The Royal Oak after driving all last night & today, that bloody WAG won’t capture me. Thanks for your sincere concern
              Digs in Fairwater

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              • Re: 20mph online petition

                Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                I'd stick with the 20 if Drippy retired instead, but signed again.
                In other words you signed at least twice,Multiple email address's make a mockery of on line polls/petitions.

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                • Re: 20mph online petition

                  Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                  Amazingly one pedestrian was killed on a motorway in Wales in 2022.
                  How many wildlife and domestic animals though.1000s.A small thing but a life saved.A squrriel was crossing the road,the woman in front of me was doing 20.At 30 it would have been killed.Any other true story.

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                  • Re: 20mph online petition

                    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                    Digs in Fairwater
                    Just by Summers Funeral Home now, the white washed walls. All closed up, no custom now the roads are safer

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                    • Re: 20mph online petition

                      Originally posted by dandywarhol View Post
                      How many wildlife and domestic animals though.1000s.A small thing but a life saved.A squrriel was crossing the road,the woman in front of me was doing 20.At 30 it would have been killed.Any other true story.
                      Bet he went nuts though.

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                      • Re: 20mph online petition

                        Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                        I doubt that's true, and even if so how many miles of 70mph motorway are there and how many are there of 30mph?

                        How many people died on each not had an accident, you're trying to change the narrative.

                        How many on 70mph roads not only motorways?

                        You've probably thrown in the A roads and stuff with the 30mph roads.

                        If not you are trying to say it's safer to be hit at 70mph that 30mph.
                        It's strange how you and other posters are so happy to just say that any data you don't agree with is untrue. It's all published and completely open to anyone who would want to challenge it (unlike the stats of blokes on Reddit or 'that guy' everyone ignores in the local pub) . You can find the 2022 figures here :https://www.gov.wales/police-recorde...ions-2022-html

                        I'm sure you'll just dismiss it (unlike that one post from a guy in Poland who you jumped on despite him actually saying that lowering speed limits only worked once speeding idiots were also forced to slow down by humps) but it includes data about your great theory that injured and killed pedestrians are at fault because you have never been hit by a car. I won't spoil it for you but it might just be time to finally give up on that dream of being a data scientist sorry.

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                        • Re: 20mph online petition

                          Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                          Two million+ people haven’t signed any petition because it most probably doesn't bother them too much because they’ve got a lot of other things that are more important to them going on in their life.
                          only 1.1million voted in the last election in wales and that's after they got posted a polling card and a given a local place to vote, so just under 429,000 people actively looking for a petition on the internet because they don't agree is very different to concluding 2m+ do agree

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                          • Re: 20mph online petition

                            Originally posted by scooter View Post
                            only 1.1million voted in the last election in wales and that's after they got posted a polling card and a given a local place to vote, so just under 429,000 people actively looking for a petition on the internet because they don't agree is very different to concluding 2m+ do agree
                            Are you saying it's less effort to sign an online petition than go out and vote? And what evidence do you have to support that people actively looked for the petition, rather than their friends/family sending them a link?

                            I'm not saying either are particularly difficult, but it's quite clearly easier to sign an online petition.

                            I'd also be interested in seeing how many of the 429,000 voted in the last Senedd election (or indeed, how many would be eligible to vote!)

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                            • Re: 20mph online petition

                              [QUOTE=FungoFurore;5457112]Are you saying it's less effort to sign an online petition than go out and vote? And what evidence do you have to support that people actively looked for the petition, rather than their friends/family sending them a link?

                              I'm not saying either are particularly difficult, but it's quite clearly easier to sign an online petition.

                              I'd also be interested in seeing how many of the 429,000 voted in the last Senedd election (or indeed, how many would be eligible to vote!)[/QUOT



                              20mph petition: 'No evidence of duplication or tampering', Senedd say

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                              • Re: 20mph online petition

                                Originally posted by scooter View Post
                                only 1.1million voted in the last election in wales and that's after they got posted a polling card and a given a local place to vote, so just under 429,000 people actively looking for a petition on the internet because they don't agree is very different to concluding 2m+ do agree
                                Who said 2million+ agree? I said 2million+ haven't signed any petition because they’re aren’t that bothered. I think you’ve made it up that I said 2million+ agree

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