20mph online petition

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph online petition

1) Not decided upon a whim at all - but an evidence based decision, that hasn't only been made here, but in a large number of other areas throughout the world.
2) I doubt tis will have any significant effect on how the votes play out here.
3) For what - to save lives!

A whim, even you agreed the money could have been better used elsewhere everyone agreed that.

It could cost them in Westminster, the Red Blue Red walls are turning blue again, wouldn't it be crazy if the only thing stopping Labour was Drippys disaster alerting them of the desire to ban the car early

I would have bet anything on Newer Labour (same policies as Conservatives except earlier unpopular green measures) getting elected with a landslide, but now Drippy and Khans policies are frightening voters off, it could get a lot closer.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Because it's embarrassing Wales is a democratically elected country with less than 40% of population consistently turning up to the polls.



Edit: For what it's worth, they could make it like the Australian system which I understand has an option to vote for nobody on the ballot paper, but you have to go. It makes people interested and gets them involved in political conversation if they have to or get fined.

Can't we have a vote to reverse the devolution and sack them all?

Leave would probably win this one!

[goats]

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I drove through Pentwyn, Rhyd-Y-Penau Road, Fidlas Road, Station Road, Heol Hir and Templeton Avenue yesterday, all at 20 mph.

Almost nodded off twice, 20mph is dangerous !!!!!

You need to get down to allensbank rd, it’s another level of slow with the new cycle lanes and lights that you can never get through as there are no filters, you could easily get a 5 minute power knap…..

[goats]

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Kier has a brain though.

Unlike the Tory Loons in Govt. 🤣🤣🤣

But he’s just another Tory or very posh slightly lefty

[TWGL1]

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What has the current government in Wales done to promote tourism in the last two years , considering it’s around 12% employment and 5% GDP ?

[79blue]

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Can't we have a vote to reverse the devolution and sack them all?

Leave would probably win this one!

You would like to go back to the days when Wales was ruled by a Secretary of State (who acted like a governor of a Roman Provence). More often than not it was an English Tory who used it to promote himself at the expense of Wales.

Who can forget John Redwood pretend to sing the Welsh national anthem, looking like Mr Bean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFP5MjUuzsg

You have frequently gone on about democracy, but was is more democratic, politicians elected by the citizens of Wales or a political ruler imposed by a Westminster government elected mostly by English voters?

[goats]

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What has the current government in Wales done to promote tourism in the last two years , considering it’s around 12% employment and 5% GDP ?

Trying to kill it off by the looks, lots of holiday let’s selling up as they know they can’t let for the insane 182 days a year, it’s 70 days in England like it used to be here. Tourist tax too….

[caerkid]

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Just a smidge of an escalation?

700+ post thread about driving a little bit slower.

To be fair though I have learnt that some people have found that having to drive a bit slower will make your journey a little bit longer so it wasn't all hot air in here.

[The Bloop]

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Trying to kill it off by the looks, lots of holiday let’s selling up as they know they can’t let for the insane 182 days a year, it’s 70 days in England like it used to be here. Tourist tax too….

How many people, when considering where to go on their summer holiday, dismiss a potential destination because they'd have to pay a tourist tax?

[xsnaggle]

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But he’s just another Tory or very posh slightly lefty

He was the civil rights lawyer who sued the government to demand that all illegal immigrants should get full benefits, which is now costing the government billions.
I hope he is proud of himself.
The same man who has a special government approved pension which means he can put as much as he wants into it while other people can't.
The same man who was head of the public prosecutions office that failed to charge the sex rings in places like Bradford because it might be seen as racist.
The same man who failed to charge Jimmy Saville.
The same man who sat on the front bench with Jeremy Corbyn before he stabbed him in the back.
The same man who fought tooth and nail in the commons to try to prevent the voted will of the people to leave the EU. Attempting to overturn a perfectly legal democratic vote.
The same man who told the world that his father worked in a factory but conveniently forget to mention that he owned the factory.

etc. etc........

[North Cardiff Blue]

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What has the current government in Wales done to promote tourism in the last two years , considering it’s around 12% employment and 5% GDP ?

They've lowered the speed in Wales on the motorway so it will take ages for visitors ages to get here.
They've decided not to build any new roads so it will take ages to get here.
They've scrapped the brynglas tunnel M4 Motorway by pass so it will take ages to get here.
They've lowered the speed in residential areas, so unfamiliar visitors risk speeding points and £100 fines.
They've tripled the council tax for 2nd homes, so the cost for Airbnb will have to go up to pay for it, and many are selling up.
They've proposed a tourist tax.

You could say they've done wonders for the tourism industry

In Cornwall and Devon.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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You would like to go back to the days when Wales was ruled by a Secretary of State (who acted like a governor of a Roman Provence). More often than not it was an English Tory who used it to promote himself at the expense of Wales.

Who can forget John Redwood pretend to sing the Welsh national anthem, looking like Mr Bean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFP5MjUuzsg

You have frequently gone on about democracy, but was is more democratic, politicians elected by the citizens of Wales or a political ruler imposed by a Westminster government elected mostly by English voters?

Yes please anything has got to be better than what we have!

[splott parker]

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He was the civil rights lawyer who sued the government to demand that all illegal immigrants should get full benefits, which is now costing the government billions.
I hope he is proud of himself.
The same man who has a special government approved pension which means he can put as much as he wants into it while other people can't.
The same man who was head of the public prosecutions office that failed to charge the sex rings in places like Bradford because it might be seen as racist.
The same man who failed to charge Jimmy Saville.
The same man who sat on the front bench with Jeremy Corbyn before he stabbed him in the back.
The same man who fought tooth and nail in the commons to try to prevent the voted will of the people to leave the EU. Attempting to overturn a perfectly legal democratic vote.
The same man who told the world that his father worked in a factory but conveniently forget to mention that he owned the factory.

etc. etc........

Perhaps you need to bone up on Starmer on things such as the awful Saville affair. I’m not a massive fan of him but false accusations are a bit out of order.

[jeepster]

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He was the civil rights lawyer who sued the government to demand that all illegal immigrants should get full benefits, which is now costing the government billions.
I hope he is proud of himself.
The same man who has a special government approved pension which means he can put as much as he wants into it while other people can't.
The same man who was head of the public prosecutions office that failed to charge the sex rings in places like Bradford because it might be seen as racist.
The same man who failed to charge Jimmy Saville.
The same man who sat on the front bench with Jeremy Corbyn before he stabbed him in the back.
The same man who fought tooth and nail in the commons to try to prevent the voted will of the people to leave the EU. Attempting to overturn a perfectly legal democratic vote.
The same man who told the world that his father worked in a factory but conveniently forget to mention that he owned the factory.

etc. etc........

What a load of lying crap.

[Hilts]

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He was the civil rights lawyer who sued the government to demand that all illegal immigrants should get full benefits, which is now costing the government billions.
I hope he is proud of himself.
The same man who has a special government approved pension which means he can put as much as he wants into it while other people can't.
The same man who was head of the public prosecutions office that failed to charge the sex rings in places like Bradford because it might be seen as racist.
The same man who failed to charge Jimmy Saville.
The same man who sat on the front bench with Jeremy Corbyn before he stabbed him in the back.
The same man who fought tooth and nail in the commons to try to prevent the voted will of the people to leave the EU. Attempting to overturn a perfectly legal democratic vote.
The same man who told the world that his father worked in a factory but conveniently forget to mention that he owned the factory.

etc. etc........

WTF?

This site has gone to shit with posts like this.