20mph online petition

[sneggyblubird]

Re: 20mph online petition

Over 400,000 people sign a petition for no other reason than being pissed off.My view is once the month on month stats become available the opposition to this will evaporate (or at least it's credibility) if said stats show a big reduction in reported accidents and/or a serious reduction in deaths/serious injuries.

[Claude Blue]

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Do you know how many people the Senedd allowed to be hired in order to chase this money ?
Answer - 1 person - and I met him. A few years back at a function, ended up talking to someone - we exchanged the usual chit chat - and he explained what his job was. 'Oh you must have have a big team to goo after all those that basically stole money off the tax payer,?' I said - 'well urm - not really Im the only one' he said rather embarrassed by it.
He said it was an impossible task for one person. This was about 18 months or so ago - maybe they hired more - but it doesnt sound like it.

So, did you meet this chap "a few years back" or "about 18 months or so ago"?

If you're going to make up a story at least try to be consistent with the dates

Perhaps you need to log out and return with a different username. Again.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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So, did you meet this chap "a few years back" or "about 18 months or so ago"?

If you're going to make up a story at least try to be consistent with the dates

Perhaps you need to log out and return with a different username. Again.

Is he from Cwmbran ?

[ninian opinian]

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Rishi Sunak’s own Tory-run North Yorkshire council is expanding 20mph zones arguing they are ‘safer’.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-tory-north-yorkshire-council-expanding-20mph-zones-2656753

[The Bloop]

Re: 20mph online petition

Rishi Sunak’s own Tory-run North Yorkshire council is expanding 20mph zones arguing they are ‘safer’.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-tory-north-yorkshire-council-expanding-20mph-zones-2656753

He'll turn it around and highlight how it's right for councils in certain areas to make local decisions that are right for them.

[Keyser Soze]

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Just for NCB https://t.co/vvgViGrWWF

Nearly half a million.

Don't forget this won't even include the whopping amounts that are yet to sign, or will not sign at all. Just bear in mind the "not sign at all" category. A vast amount of over-60s who won't do a poll on their life support machine (sorry, I meant mobile phone), laptop, or PC, like the 16-35 cohorts. Nor will it include the vast amount of people in Swansea that cannot even read and understand the simple poll options. Plus those high on crack and permanently drunk who cannot see the screen straight. The huge student population of Pontypridd, Cardiff, Swansea, Carmarthen, Bangor and the shite former polytechnic in Newport who are all high as a kite on skunk. Then there are those in poverty who didn't pay their bills and had their electricity and internet cut off. Plus the homeless. Then all the refugees in Newport who are either linguistically non-grata, or making the effort to get up to speed with the language. Now you're talking a serious minority, perhaps a majority, who are not in favour of this dumb law.

It makes a mockery of the Welsh government's claims that these were "popular with the local public" as they claimed. Many will perceive this as a deliberate lie to the public. This was a law passed by force. For a Welsh Labour party whose only (very good) skill has been to retain power without making big mistakes, due to Lib Dem weakness and the combined Plaid-o-phobia / Tory-phobia, this has been the first serious faux pas I have seen from them in years.

A mistake that neither the highly intelligent Carwyn Jones nor Rhodri Morgan's shrewd politically antenna would have committed, but seemed all to too easy for Dripford to make. Welsh Labour will ship votes for this, but the sheep will still vote for them in their droves, no doubt.

It will take an army of stormtroopers to massacre large swathes of Welsh families, or income tax to be 99%, before people have the sense to turf Welsh Labour out. It hasn't happened since 1999, and won't happen for a long time yet. Perhaps when we go "Full Retard Venezuela", we might, just might, consider it.

[the other bob wilson]

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He'll turn it around and highlight how it's right for councils in certain areas to make local decisions that are right for them.

I watched him maintaining that inflation is a tax yesterday, so that’s another one he’s increased.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Rishi Sunak’s own Tory-run North Yorkshire council is expanding 20mph zones arguing they are ‘safer’.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-tory-north-yorkshire-council-expanding-20mph-zones-2656753

That is the problem if one area gets away with it others will try and follow it is setting a precedent.

Hopefully they will kick off and stop it before it happens.

[Rjk]

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That is the problem if one area gets away with it others will try and follow it is setting a precedent.

Hopefully they will kick off and stop it before it happens.

see also Cornwall, Amsterdam, Paris, Brussels etc etc

[pipster]

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That is the problem if one area gets away with it others will try and follow it is setting a precedent.

Hopefully they will kick off and stop it before it happens.

From my travels around Cardiff - I'd say about 80% of just ignoring 20mph

[Rjk]

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From my travels around Cardiff - I'd say about 80% of just ignoring 20mph

I've seen a few people driving at say 22 or 24 on the odd occasion, but these would probably have been driving at 34 if it was a 30 zone.
the vast majority of people are sticking to the limit in my experience.

are you mostly driving around at 3 am or something?

[Dorcus]

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I've seen a few people driving at say 22 or 24 on the odd occasion, but these would probably have been driving at 34 if it was a 30 zone.
the vast majority of people are sticking to the limit in my experience.

are you mostly driving around at 3 am or something?

He's driving people mad is the answer.

[The Bloop]

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That is the problem if one area gets away with it others will try and follow it is setting a precedent.

Hopefully they will kick off and stop it before it happens.

Get away with it?
Didn't Rishi say last week that to combat Labour's 'war on motorists' he was going to give power to individual councils to decide - I guess that includes Conservative run councils too.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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see also Cornwall, Amsterdam, Paris, Brussels etc etc

You can't drive over 20mph in any of them they are congested (well tourist time in Cornwall)

Plus just because other Cities have idiotic ideas, don't bring them here at great expense as a priority over far more important needs needs.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Get away with it?
Didn't Rishi say last week that to combat Labour's 'war on motorists' he was going to give power to individual councils to decide - I guess that includes Conservative run councils too.

Yes, of course, that's good it's not a blanket policy all over England, we can already see its labour councils that love gimmicky daft attention-seeing ideas, then beg for more money when they go bust.

In Wales, it was sneaked in and Labour can do whatever they want. Other council areas will get advanced warning and get it stopped.