20mph online petition

[life on mars]

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As John McEnroe would say: "you cannot be serious!"

Facts

"" Two statements this week from the FT that might pass for apologies. Economics Editor, Chris Giles, said on radio 4's More or Less that the new GDP data meant that he and others must now stop claiming that the UK was the G7's worst performing economy. Last Thursday, Peter Foster, the Europe editor,, argued for an end to litigating old arguments about Brexit that are getting us nowhere'.
Whoever can he mean??""

https://www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/

[Michael Morris]

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An extraordinary meeting of Cardiff Council has been called for 4.30pm today to debate a motion on the 20mph default limit set by Welsh Government

— Cardiff Council (@cardiffcouncil) October 12, 2023

[pipster]

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Dont think anything will happen. Councillor Caro Wild is behind all the cycle lane / traffic calming plans for CCC.
He was the one that shut Castle street under the excuse of covid. There was a local vote - something the council tried to hide. Anyway - a vote was had - the council lost = so tythey had to re open the road (total cost over 3 million).
Wild then tried to get Cardiff university to do a study to prove his point, that was rumbled whne it was discovered they are both good mates... and the study was so biased it was hard to take it seriously.

Meanwhile Councilor Wild has spent 1 million putting in a bus lane on Cathedral road - all that to save in his own words - 30 seconds journey time - whilst creating a massive traffic issue. All vehicles in a jam with engines running etc.

Caro Wild, Hugh Thomas (council leader),Brennan and Drakeford are all good mates and signed up to 20. So the chances of anything happening re getting rid of the 20mph is zero

Thomas - Oxford educated (music degree I believe) and Wild - is from Leeds and grew up on a commune - and the pair of them are in control of what happens in Cardiff.

[dandywarhol]

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The bus lanes in Cardiff are a God send. The Cwmbran/Cardiff bus is always on time.
Don't criticise the Councillors,put your head above the para-pit and stand for election.

[Stanmore Bluebird]

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For me entering my 8th decade, driving at 30 at night now seems much faster than it used to especially with all the parked cars where I live in Inner London affecting my judgement. It is very different in the day time when 30 sometimes appears pedestrian to me.

20-25 at night seems more comfortable for me in built-up areas than 30. The 20 mph zones we have locally are probably sensible after dark, though not in the daytime. Maybe, there should be variable speed limits according to the time of day and lighting conditions?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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For me entering my 8th decade, driving at 30 at night now seems much faster than it used to especially with all the parked cars where I live in Inner London affecting my judgement. It is very different in the day time when 30 sometimes appears pedestrian to me.

20-25 at night seems more comfortable for me in built-up areas than 30. The 20 mph zones we have locally are probably sensible after dark, though not in the daytime. Maybe, there should be variable speed limits according to the time of day and lighting conditions?

No just reduce your own speed at night, it's interesting that even people who are almost 80 too slow and driving on the busiest roads in London. It's just a joke.

[superfeathers]

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For me entering my 8th decade, driving at 30 at night now seems much faster than it used to especially with all the parked cars where I live in Inner London affecting my judgement. It is very different in the day time when 30 sometimes appears pedestrian to me.

20-25 at night seems more comfortable for me in built-up areas than 30. The 20 mph zones we have locally are probably sensible after dark, though not in the daytime. Maybe, there should be variable speed limits according to the time of day and lighting conditions?

You’re the only person I’ve ever heard of suggesting slower speeds at the quieter times of day

[Rjk]

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No just reduce your own speed at night, it's interesting that even people who are almost 80 too slow and driving on the busiest roads in London. It's just a joke.

do you want to try that again?

[LeningradCowboy]

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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/new-poll-shows-massive-opposition-27927202

A new poll shows there is huge opposition to the new 20mph speed limit in Wales.

[LeningradCowboy]

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I don't know if this is directly related to the reduced speed limit, but there is now a lot more queuing traffic in Cathays and Roath then there was a few months ago. It's really noticeable.

[Rjk]

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I don't know if this is directly related to the reduced speed limit, but there is now a lot more queuing traffic in Cathays and Roath then there was a few months ago. It's really noticeable.

a few months ago when the students were all back for the summer?

[Dave Blue]

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Anyone still bothered about this seriously needs to get a life.

[LeningradCowboy]

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a few months ago when the students were all back for the summer?

No, before then. Obviously it's quieter in the summer. I walk to and from work, but it seems like there are suddenly a lot more cars on the roads.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Anyone still bothered about this seriously needs to get a life.

I think you're right. The number of people paying any attention to it on the road is negligible.

There are a few issues, though. It seems impossible to do 40 or 50 on roads with those speed limits. There's always someone happy to do 30/35. 20mph doesn't mean 15mph. That is REALLY annoying.

I still get annoyed at the overall inconsistency of our speed limits.

[dml1954]

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Anyone still bothered about this seriously needs to get a life.

Your opinion. Not one shared by many people in Wales though, except possibly old ‘stick his head in the sand and hope it goes away’ Drakeford.