40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[goats]

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get over yourself , i'm going to a freshers ball tomorrow, and will be celebrating people at a gig getting killed , those scarf things are cool

Wtf?

[+ the native hipster]

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Wtf?

i know, very odd but if you don't love Palestine you are ostracised

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Wtf?

There are some people on the fringe of left wing politics who wave Palestinian flags from time to time

It's daft in my opinion really but there you go

Those on the right of British politics sometimes wave star of David Israel 🇮🇱 flags to wind up lefties

All very silly

[JamesWales]

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Israel today saying this is their 9/11.

[Dorcus]

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There are some people on the fringe of left wing politics who wave Palestinian flags from time to time

It's daft in my opinion really but there you go

Those on the right of British politics sometimes wave star of David Israel 🇮🇱 flags to wind up lefties

All very silly

Absolutely spot on. There's been some weird comments from some in this thread.

The slaughter and kidnap of innocent citizens is always beyond the pale and is always absolutely wrong. Whatever the political divide one should always deplore violence against the innocent and vulnerable.

[JamesWales]

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Absolutely spot on. There's been some weird comments from some in this thread.

The slaughter and kidnap of innocent citizens is always beyond the pale and is always absolutely wrong. Whatever the political divide one should always deplore violence against the innocent and vulnerable.

Well said 👍.

[Swiss Peter]

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Absolutely spot on. There's been some weird comments from some in this thread.

The slaughter and kidnap of innocent citizens is always beyond the pale and is always absolutely wrong. Whatever the political divide one should always deplore violence against the innocent and vulnerable.

Correct. As someone said on the radio this morning, sometimes the most intelligent thing to do is to say less and listen more.

[Eric Cartman]

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Israel today saying this is their 9/11.

Probably a fair comparison both in scale and unexpectedness and I suppose also in terms of how the two sides will frame this.

[pipster]

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Watching the news last night someone painted a scenario - Imagine if Corbyn had won the election, what would he and the Labour party do in this situation.

[Dorcus]

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Watching the news last night someone painted a scenario - Imagine if Corbyn had won the election, what would he and the Labour party do in this situation.

Inject a lot of sense into this madness.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Watching the news last night someone painted a scenario - Imagine if Corbyn had won the election, what would he and the Labour party do in this situation.

Think you are trying too hard for attention/bites* (delete as appropriate).

As others have said there have been some unnecessary rubbish in this thread and this is the latest example.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Richard Hecht is the colonel and spokesman of the Israeli Army

He's originally from Glasgow and like a lot of the settlers in Israel is so clearly entrenched in his view that he and his side are right and the Palestinians are wrong

He was on the news talking about defeating the enemy what an absolute delusion

The young man from London who has died fighting for the Israeli army is entitled to do what he wants with his life which sadly has now ended but instead of living as a young man with friends from all backgrounds his faith or religion or whatever it is has propelled him over to a land to fight people he has learned to hate .....his family said he was a good boy but he's taken free will at the age of 20 to fight for a land and its people based upon what he's learned about at Jewish school

And there are obviously young Palestinians who will be on the opposite side and involved in acts of violence despite being in reality just kids

There are huge communities of secular Jews and Arabs living together in Israel , Tel Aviv was until recently a fairly chilled out place , given its history but when in countries faraway from Israel and Palestine young people are being fed and educated by people on both sides who hate and live in the past then it's the viscous circle of tit for tat

There's absolutely no chance of this conflict ever being resolved I am afraid

No chance

[pipster]

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"Think you are trying too hard for attention/bites* (delete as appropriate).

As others have said there have been some unnecessary rubbish in this thread and this is the latest example."

Coming from you Evans - that is staggering. Dorcus seems to think Corbyn would inject a lot of sense into the situation - do you agree ?

[cyril evans awaydays]

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"Think you are trying too hard for attention/bites* (delete as appropriate).

As others have said there have been some unnecessary rubbish in this thread and this is the latest example."

Coming from you Evans - that is staggering. Dorcus seems to think Corbyn would inject a lot of sense into the situation - do you agree ?

No. But I also think trying to drag Corbyn back into a discussion after you tried and failed to troll about Labour earlier in the thread was infantile and puerile. But plus ca change. Multis have to mult I guess!

[Dorcus]

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I'm sure this will be controversial for many and whilst I wouldn't presume to speak for Sludge I think a suggestion on the conflict might tie in to his general thoughts on the issue.

There's no doubt this conflict knows no bounds and will run and run and run. How long in time and how many innocents will be killed and maimed before a political settlement will be achieved to end the cycle of suffering? Many people cannot see that horizon because it's much too far away.

Although an eye for an eye is rooted in the psyche of nearly all humans as a rational reaction to attack I wonder if in this instance Israel would be better advised to spare any more human suffering and resist retaliation?

I think if they followed this course of non retaliatory violence Israel would likely gain kudos and probably gain much more support for their cause than hitherto.

What exactly will exacting violent punishment achieve? It certainly won't act as a deterrent because it will inevitably lead to more conflict and, incidentally probably increase support for the Palestinian people.

This may be an opportunity for Israel to lay the foundations for a peaceful settlement by gaining the moral high ground and resisting the shrill calls to exact revenge.