40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

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Joe Biden touches down in Israel

Netanyahu all over him like a rash

I would be very surprised if anything comes from this apart from the usual

If Israel is not responsible then at the very least the ridiculous bombing of Gaza must surely be held back for everybody's sake not least the poor people living there

If Israel are not responsible are they going to start up all over again as it was them , not us ?!

[Eric Cartman]

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The idf spokesperson calling out hamas for their media strategy whilst he himself is giving a press conference watched by the world is quite ridiculous. Whatever people believe, the idea that Hamas have more sway in the international community and world media than Israel is laughable.

[JamesWales]

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Who knows what happened. The obvious answer is it was an Israeli attack but every chance it wasn't. But reading the quote from Hamas referring to Israel committing a war crime was quite something.

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America stands with Israel

They need to understand they can have whatever they need to defend themselves

Well there we go then

Turn out the lights

[Dorcus]

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America stands with Israel

They need to understand they can have whatever they need to defend themselves

Well there we go then

Turn out the lights

The US is complicit in this carnage. It's harrowing stuff.

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https://x.com/IsraelMFA/status/1714546593146249559?s=20

audio released by Israel that they claim is evidence it was rockets from Hamas that exploded the hospital not an air strike from Israel.

something doesn't sit right about it to me, just doesn't seem like a very natural conversation, but who knows.

[Dorcus]

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Who knows what happened. The obvious answer is it was an Israeli attack but every chance it wasn't. But reading the quote from Hamas referring to Israel committing a war crime was quite something.

If it was an Israeli attack it was a war crime, plain and simple. It makes no difference that Hamas has called it out. The problem is that Israel will get away with it if they did indeed cause it because the US stands shoulder to shoulder with them no matter what.

[Eric Cartman]

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Who knows what happened. The obvious answer is it was an Israeli attack but every chance it wasn't. But reading the quote from Hamas referring to Israel committing a war crime was quite something.

This is the crux of it. Both sides claim they haven't done anything wrong ever and they were always 'responding'.

[JamesWales]

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If it was an Israeli attack it was a war crime, plain and simple. It makes no difference that Hamas has called it out. The problem is that Israel will get away with it if they did indeed cause it because the US stands shoulder to shoulder with them no matter what.

Indeed. But the point is we shouldnt take a group that slaughtered children last week at face value.

And nor should we Israel. But we sure as hell shouldn't do it with Hamas or Islamic State or any of them.

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israel also saying that the missile only lit a small fire in the car park and nothing hit the hospital itself

[life on mars]

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I would rather trust the Israeli/western version as there is nothing to gain bombing a hospital and they have the skills not too and Hamas know that, its reported the shrapnel is not Israeli made and there is intercepted call between Hamas operatives admitting the mistake .

Its worth noting Hamas has hundreds of underground tunnels under the 25 miles of Gaza including hospitals ,schools ,they fire rockets form populated areas such a caring bunch .

Anyone know how much it would cost to build those vast structures since 2005 ( who funds that whilst Palestinians starve ) and the tens of thousands of rockets ( who funds that whilst Palestinians starve )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

Everyone can be clever politically about this one sadly its trade3ic on both sides imagine the mental trama on children in Gaza and Israel over these years .

In 2005, Israel's withdrew from the entire Gaza Strip back to 1967 border lines .

Money/aid then poured into Palestine from around the world , only to see proxy terrorists to be set up and sponsored by neighbouring middle states .

It is easy to google Iranian and Hamas , Hezbollah leaders views on if there should eb a two state solution to find they just want the Israeli's completely destroyed and pushed into the sea ( river to the sea is sung in the streets of London ) no discussion allowed by Hamas ....

If Israel dropped their weapons to the floor they would be massacred .

Best to not to pick a side based on your dislike of Conservative Israeli support v the obsession the left has with Jews and Israeli and love of Palestine they both kill .

Sadly the innocent of Palestine are being killed on may fronts Israeli , Hamas , Hezbollah ,Iran or anyone who funds them ,anyone could work out that Hamas / buddies/Isis planned their attack, not for a peaceful mean , or force Israel around the table it was designed to see the response knowing innocent /decent Palestinians would be killed ..

No conflict no Hamas /Hezbollah /Isis is the the key to all this

Palestine's hatred and effort is best served ridding themselves of sponsored Hamas /Hezbollah /Isis, you would then find powerful western countries/ Saudi /Egypt controlling /advising Israel in a better way

[pipster]

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israel also saying that the missile only lit a small fire in the car park and nothing hit the hospital itself

Any Israeli missile would have guidance systems on it, where as the rocket from the cemetery would be a fire and forget type. So it seems unlikely to me anyway - that it would have been from the Israeli side.

Neither side will admit it was their fault - ever - no matter how much proof there is.

Gaza city is being flattened as prescribed, and Israel has a strangle hold on them - which they cant get out of - other than to increase the reach of the war and get Iran / Hezbollah involved etc. Hamas appear to not have thought this through very well. Hopefully sleepy Joe can get a cease fire, Gaza has been taken back to the stone age - and they can spend the next 20 years re building it - while Israel built a steel wall with remote controlled guns so they dont fly over the top again

[life on mars]

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Sometimes I think Israel's leadership is devoid of intelligence. They bask in the support given to them for a horrific attack upon their citizens then they blow it all away with their all consuming bloodlust. Sickening.

Sometimes folk should sit back and find out the facts . your above comment is spot on same goes to Hamas Terrorists

[chrisp_1927]

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Hard to see the justification in the continued bombing, what else can be left to bomb? I support the right to make a ground invasion if needed , but can this continued bombing really be targeting militants only?


As for that hospital strike. I reckon what's not being said probably speaks louder. If that was an Israeli strike we'd have had Palestinian journalists all over TV this morning with the proof , yet they appear to have nothing. In fact the Palestinian side seems to have gone very quiet on the matter

Didn't quite see the point in the audio released by Israel. My first thought on hearing it was it could as easily have been knocked up next door as be real. I'm wondering if it's more for the ears of the Iranians and hizbollah etc who are meant to recognise who these 2 people actually are.

[life on mars]

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Any Israeli missile would have guidance systems on it, where as the rocket from the cemetery would be a fire and forget type. So it seems unlikely to me anyway - that it would have been from the Israeli side.

Neither side will admit it was their fault - ever - no matter how much proof there is.

Gaza city is being flattened as prescribed, and Israel has a strangle hold on them - which they cant get out of - other than to increase the reach of the war and get Iran / Hezbollah involved etc. Hamas appear to not have thought this through very well. Hopefully sleepy Joe can get a cease fire, Gaza has been taken back to the stone age - and they can spend the next 20 years re building it - while Israel built a steel wall with remote controlled guns so they dont fly over the top again

I'm sure the far left will deicide it for us they are setting up a vigil for all to attend in London for the hospital , sadly wont be the same for the festival goes of Israel .

By the way Corbyn called Hamas friends , Sir Keir was in that cabinet and didn't speak up , he didn't resign unlike other brave Labour MP's including Jewish ones who were hounded relentlessly until they left , lovely , party moved on be fecked , Sir Kier backed JC so many times , if that was Boris there would be some drum banging .