Climate fanatics - where are you

[Rjk]

Re: Climate fanatics - where are you

It’s not fact though it’s an assumption, like most things and these assumptions carry more weight if you believe in them.

How do they know exactly how far away the sun is for example - it’s a theory. Just because NASA says it’s 93m miles away there is no way of proving it.

Einstein had plenty of theories. Science theories are actually neither proven or disproven.

have you bothered to find out how we know how far the sun is?

[lardy]

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It’s not fact though it’s an assumption, like most things and these assumptions carry more weight if you believe in them.

How do they know exactly how far away the sun is for example - it’s a theory. Just because NASA says it’s 93m miles away there is no way of proving it.

Einstein had plenty of theories. Science theories are actually neither proven or disproven.

The word theory keeps coming up. I really do recommend looking into what 'scientific theory' means, because it doesn't mean guess/assumption/uncertainty/doubt.
There is a theory of gravity (we've had more than one over the years) but it doesn't mean that gravity might stop working one day. A theory offers an explanation for how it happens.

The distance from the earth to the sun is not a theory.

This conversation is about the earth orbiting the sun, which apparently at least one poster doesn't believe happens. Small objects orbit larger ones, and that is a principle (not a theory) that we have used to launch satellites and now I can have an instant video call with someone in Australia or use GPS. I don't need to sit on a satellite and experience an orbit to know they're real.

[lardy]

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No need to downplay your actual accomplishments. I mean working for the same company for 36 years, having at least two A Levels and still being the right side of 50 is no mean feat for starters!

Now this is the kind of thing we need a scientific theory to offer an explanation for.

[lardy]

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If climate change is not man-made what possible controls can we put in place?

Highlighting the most important question in this post.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Climate fanatics - where are you

It’s not fact though it’s an assumption, like most things and these assumptions carry more weight if you believe in them.

How do they know exactly how far away the sun is for example - it’s a theory. Just because NASA says it’s 93m miles away there is no way of proving it.

Einstein had plenty of theories. Science theories are actually neither proven or disproven.

Using calculations gleaned from parallax observations Cassini had a fairly decent stab at the distance involved - and that was in the 17th century. As we have far more technology at our disposal nowadays (including knowing how fast photons travel), we can now anticipate the movement of the planets around the sun (anannual event for us on Earth) in our solar system to such a degree that we can get space craft to return to our spinning and moving planet after weeks, months or years, wherever it is in relation to the sun. To imagine that the distance from the sun is only a theory is rather ridiculous. I think it's more of a case of not understanding how such distances are determined.
I don't like silly analogies but, with my cartographer's hat on, it's like saying that triangulation calculations aren't proven.
It's easier to dismiss science when you don't understand it.

[Rjk]

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Using calculations gleaned from parallax observations Cassini had a fairly decent stab at the distance involved - and that was in the 17th century. As we have far more technology at our disposal nowadays we can now anticipate the movement of the planets around the sun (anannual event for us on Earth) in our solar system to such a degree that we can get space craft to return to our spinning and moving planet after weeks, months or years, wherever it is in relation to the sun. To imagine that the distance from the sun is only a theory is rather ridiculous. I think it's more of a case of not understanding how such distances are determined.

We've also in the last century sent various spacecraft to visit several of the other planets, landed on a comet with pinpoint precision with a trajectory that took 12 years and looped past the earth and mars several times to get to the correct speed and position exactly as calculated.
the idea that we could do all that but somehow not know for sure how far away the sun is is utterly ridiculous.

[jon1959]

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We've also in the last century sent various spacecraft to visit several of the other planets, landed on a comet with pinpoint precision with a trajectory that took 12 years and looped past the earth and mars several times to get to the correct speed and position exactly as calculated.
the idea that we could do all that but somehow not know for sure how far away the sun is is utterly ridiculous.

But there are several on here who know all that was done on a set of Pinewood Studios and they know it would be fatal for any human to leave the earth's atmosphere 'cos their heads would explode, and they know you are a dupe of the MSM, the WEF and the Illuminati. The truth is to be found in the bowels of the interweb, and all scientists are in the pay of someone or something that exists only to tell you lies (aka scientific theories.... and scientific observations....)

[jeepster]

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But there are several on here who know all that was done on a set of Pinewood Studios and they know it would be fatal for any human to leave the earth's atmosphere 'cos their heads would explode, and they know you are a dupe of the MSM, the WEF and the Illuminati. The truth is to be found in the bowels of the interweb, and all scientists are in the pay of someone or something that exists only to tell you lies (aka scientific theories.... and scientific observations....)

[lardy]

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But there are several on here who know all that was done on a set of Pinewood Studios and they know it would be fatal for any human to leave the earth's atmosphere 'cos their heads would explode, and they know you are a dupe of the MSM, the WEF and the Illuminati. The truth is to be found in the bowels of the interweb, and all scientists are in the pay of someone or something that exists only to tell you lies (aka scientific theories.... and scientific observations....)

My guess for this embarrassment is this:

- The earth orbiting the sun is a theory (sic).

- scientific theories cannot be proven.

- therefore, it cannot be proven that the earth orbits the sun.



It almost certainly originated on some nonsense website rather than independent thought from someone who did their own research.

[TWGL1]

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My guess for this embarrassment is this:

- The earth orbiting the sun is a theory (sic).

- scientific theories cannot be proven.

- therefore, it cannot be proven that the earth orbits the sun.



It almost certainly originated on some nonsense website rather than independent thought from someone who did their own research.

You make me laugh ,why do you insist of trolling posters …… do you feel brave behind a keyboard …..

[Rjk]

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You make me laugh ,why do you insist of trolling posters …… do you feel brave behind a keyboard …..

If someone pots something as stupid as nobody knows how far away the sun is then they have to expect some piss take

[TWGL1]

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It was a wind up, if they say it’s 99m miles away I’ll take their word for it.

Plenty of other theories are open to interpretation though which is the point of scientific research.

[Doucas]

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Instead of asking new users to this forum who is the Cardiff manager to prove they're human, can we ask if the Earth is flat instead? Will filter out the mentalists.

[TWGL1]

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Instead of asking new users to this forum who is the Cardiff manager to prove they're human, can we ask if the Earth is flat instead? Will filter out the mentalists.

So just to clarify, you just want a forum ( which is moderated and free of charge ) which only consists of opinions on subjects which you and your followers agree with, sorry, but that’s going to happen is it , but it’s good to know what you’re all about.

The pile ons are pretty good though.

[the other bob wilson]

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Instead of asking new users to this forum who is the Cardiff manager to prove they're human, can we ask if the Earth is flat instead? Will filter out the mentalists.

Anyone answered the question you’ve asked thirty odd times yet?