Climate fanatics - where are you

[jon1959]

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Shirley the fact that Cummings and Ferguson broke the rules very early on suggests that they were not concerned at all ,and knew they would be fine. ( it’s worth pointing out that the two of them were in hourly contact with senior government officials during this time )

The fact that the same guy broke the rules within a very short time period of the first lockdown tells you what risk he thought he was taking Do the maths.

At a time when this was the best modelling available to government or the public, and the best set of precautionary measures that could be devised to slow the spread of the virus, a number of prominent politicians and academics acted like selfish, entitled pricks.

That selfish, arrogant attitude was shared by a minority of the public - a small minority in the first year.

But most people after the first few months knew that healthy, younger people were at a low personal risk of serious illness or death if they caught Covid (not no risk). They followed the guidance because they cared about their family, friends and neighbours - some of whom faced a much greater risk of illness, pain and distress and death if they also acted like selfish, entitled pricks.

You are right about the first lockdown. The UK avoided an Italian-type health service collapse - but only just.

[Heathblue]

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A couple of years old, but i doubt if today's graph would be much different

Imagine being that much of a nutter in the UK you glue yourself to the road for 0.09%

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[NinianOpinion1927]

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A couple of years old, but i doubt if today's graph would be much different

Imagine being that much of a nutter in the UK you glue yourself to the road for 0.09%

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I'm not defending glueing oneself to the road but even though we emit 0.09% our government has influence globally, so it's not so fool hardy to lobby our government in order to try and implement change globally.
I don't understand your stance on climate change, you don't seem to deny that the globes warming, you just don't want to do anything about it or live a more clean, sustainable and responsible life.

[Wales-Bales]

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I'm not defending glueing oneself to the road but even though we emit 0.09% our government has influence globally, so it's not so fool hardy to lobby our government in order to try and implement change globally.
I don't understand your stance on climate change, you don't seem to deny that the globes warming, you just don't want to do anything about it or live a more clean, sustainable and responsible life.

How the fcuk are they going to do that? The rest of the world are ditching the dollar and joining BRICS. It's only the West that thinks it a good idea commit collective suicide.

[MOZZER2]

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thought your post needed some slight alteration

How the fcuk are they going to do that? The rest of the world are ditching the dollar and joining BRICS. It's only the West that thinks it a good idea commit ECONOMIC suicide.

[Wales-Bales]

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thought your post needed some slight alteration

How the fcuk are they going to do that? The rest of the world are ditching the dollar and joining BRICS. It's only the West that thinks it a good idea commit ECONOMIC suicide.

Collective suicide is a synonym for general madness, mutual demise, corporate death, mass sacrifice, etc., and economic suicide is a part of that too, but there will be a lot more to it besides economic failure and we will be looking at a dystopian future for those who we leave behind.

[NinianOpinion1927]

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thought your post needed some slight alteration

How the fcuk are they going to do that? The rest of the world are ditching the dollar and joining BRICS. It's only the West that thinks it a good idea commit ECONOMIC suicide.

It won't be economic suicide, we can lead the world in new tech and move away from petrol and gas. We can be leaders

[NinianOpinion1927]

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How the fcuk are they going to do that? The rest of the world are ditching the dollar and joining BRICS. It's only the West that thinks it a good idea commit collective suicide.

They've been ditching the dollar for how long now? Also, China are adopting renewables all the time. China are massively into renewables and EV's. Technology is going to solve this problem and it won't be mass economic suicide. You talk about dystopian futures....that's what's in store if we don't start living a more sustainable and responsible existence.

[Wales-Bales]

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They've been ditching the dollar for how long now? Also, China are adopting renewables all the time. China are massively into renewables and EV's. Technology is going to solve this problem and it won't be mass economic suicide. You talk about dystopian futures....that's what's in store if we don't start living a more sustainable and responsible existence.

China are not currently in the process of destroying their own economy, neither are India, etc. However, China has adopted digital control measures to ensure that their population has a right way of thinking, which will also be coming here, so we are facing a double whammy of economic demise and freedom of speech restrictions.

[MOZZER2]

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It won't be economic suicide, we can lead the world in new tech and move away from petrol and gas. We can be leaders

Can we ?

Hope your right but where i,m standing the BRICs countries are going from strength to strength and from what i,m reading are accelerating there growth using lots of coal and gas

India is going to be the next powerhouse Yes another BRICS country

Four countries - ���� China, ���� India, the ���� US and ���� Indonesia - are set to contribute more than half of the world's economic growth over the next five years, according to IMF forecasts

[Wales-Bales]

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Can we ?

Hope your right but where i,m standing the BRICs countries are going from strength to strength and from what i,m reading are accelerating there growth using lots of coal and gas

India is going to be the next powerhouse Yes another BRICS country

Four countries - ���� China, ���� India, the ���� US and ���� Indonesia - are set to contribute more than half of the world's economic growth over the next five years, according to IMF forecasts

Mate, you are reading the wrong news sources, and you are going to be sent to a re-education camp one of these days

[Heathblue]

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Ninian opinion, Just to set the record straight, I 100 % believe that the planet is subject to climate change, however, Anthropogenic climate change IMO, is nothing more than a lock step of government backed and funded scientists claiming the same thing, just in the way the government backed and funded scientists went all in with convid 19, and just like convid 19 any other independent equally qualified scientist who dared to offer an alternative view is cancelled, slandered and if possible has their credentials removed and are refused a debate on the topic, the scientists behind the Barrington declaration being the prime example, possibly the world leading virologist Geert van den Bosshe has been very eloquent with his opinion that to vaccinate your way out of a pandemic is quite simply horse shit, the interview I watched of him on the Highwire was unlike anything I heard at the time and since, he may well have been incorrect but the red flag was his opinion was ignored. I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it, I’ve been told too may times in my lifetime about the impending apocalypse because of anthropogenic climate change in some sort or another, that I have children and grand children I’m all in for a cleaner and better environment but!!! To be told by these lying charlatans again that we must have net zero by insert year then just **** em, everything is about taking off John Doe!!! and taxing us to fk and back to achieve their solution and doing everything themselves in abundance the things that they would like to remove from us, where possible I do a bit to reduce my pollution and that’s fine, instead of jumping into my Jam Jar in the morning getting warm and protected from the elements, I’ll get up 45 mins earlier than I need to, and suffer Transport Wales by using the choo choo, as a bus pass holder never take my Jam Jar to town or other local trips and use leg power, we are informed that the earth moves around the sun and that the moon revolves around the earth I’m all in for the sun having the biggest influence on our climate than any other factor, a few ICE ages over billions of years would suggest that something other than the Anthropogenic model is the root cause, I couldn’t prove this of course, just like the scientists cannot prove their Anthropogenic model, we now have young children being frightened to death by these fkin faaar left nutters who have taken over the institutions with this indoctrination and I like sticking my two fingers up to them. Lets just accept the Anthropogenic model for a minute, the UK at 0.9% and wanting to tax the shit out of us whilst the current global power that is China laughing their bollox off building x amount of coal fired power station each year.

So yes 100% climate change.
Anthropogenic model 100% No, it's nothing more than a theory.
Until someone can prove otherwise in a consensus of scientists on both of the sides of the aisle without funding from Gates, Government’s and the WEF i.e. totally independent.

[Wales-Bales]

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Ninian opinion, Just to set the record straight, I 100 % believe that the planet is subject to climate change, however, Anthropogenic climate change IMO, is nothing more than a lock step of government backed and funded scientists claiming the same thing, just in the way the government backed and funded scientists went all in with convid 19, and just like convid 19 any other independent equally qualified scientist who dared to offer an alternative view is cancelled, slandered and if possible has their credentials removed and are refused a debate on the topic, the scientists behind the Barrington declaration being the prime example, possibly the world leading virologist Geert van den Bosshe has been very eloquent with his opinion that to vaccinate your way out of a pandemic is quite simply horse shit, the interview I watched of him on the Highwire was unlike anything I heard at the time and since, he may well have been incorrect but the red flag was his opinion was ignored. I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it, I’ve been told too may times in my lifetime about the impending apocalypse because of anthropogenic climate change in some sort or another, that I have children and grand children I’m all in for a cleaner and better environment but!!! To be told by these lying charlatans again that we must have net zero by insert year then just **** em, everything is about taking off John Doe!!! and taxing us to fk and back to achieve their solution and doing everything themselves in abundance the things that they would like to remove from us, where possible I do a bit to reduce my pollution and that’s fine, instead of jumping into my Jam Jar in the morning getting warm and protected from the elements, I’ll get up 45 mins earlier than I need to, and suffer Transport Wales by using the choo choo, as a bus pass holder never take my Jam Jar to town or other local trips and use leg power, we are informed that the earth moves around the sun and that the moon revolves around the earth I’m all in for the sun having the biggest influence on our climate than any other factor, a few ICE ages over billions of years would suggest that something other than the Anthropogenic model is the root cause, I couldn’t prove this of course, just like the scientists cannot prove their Anthropogenic model, we now have young children being frightened to death by these fkin faaar left nutters who have taken over the institutions with this indoctrination and I like sticking my two fingers up to them. Lets just accept the Anthropogenic model for a minute, the UK at 0.9% and wanting to tax the shit out of us whilst the current global power that is China laughing their bollox off building x amount of coal fired power station each year.

So yes 100% climate change.
Anthropogenic model 100% No, it's nothing more than a theory.
Until someone can prove otherwise in a consensus of scientists on both of the sides of the aisle without funding from Gates, Government’s and the WEF i.e. totally independent.

In a nutshell, the anthropogenic model = population control, and some people on here are actually demanding that it happens.

[MOZZER2]

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Mate, you are reading the wrong news sources, and you are going to be sent to a re-education camp one of these days

bring it on after all Doucas thinks us old buggers are thick as shyte

[Heathblue]

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In a nutshell, the anthropogenic model = population control, and some people on here are actually demanding that it happens.

Agree, add in money laundering and wealth accumulation for the few.