Institute For Fiscal Studies

[Eric Cartman]

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I don't think it's a right-wing obsession! It's certainly something that concerns many, for many reasons, across the spectrum.

Do you think it's more important to arbitrarily force people into an office or for those people to live fulfilling secure and happy lives? It really is an either or for a lot of people because it's practically impossible to live near enough to London to commute without it ruining your life/future on the median wage or below.

[JamesWales]

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Do you think it's more important to arbitrarily force people into an office or for those people to live fulfilling secure and happy lives? It really is an either or for a lot of people because it's practically impossible to live near enough to London to commute without it ruining your life/future on the median wage or below.

I think at least 2-3 days a week collaborative working is generally best for the long term for individuals, a business and society generally really. There's a sweet spot for a small number of people that earn London weighting whilst living miles away I don't there's much evidence it solving the housing affordability crisis at all. Made it worse if anything

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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I hope that Labour get a big majority and increase spending

Then people might realise that in order to have a better NHS or public transport system it's got a cost in real terms , in the pocket

Then come the next election they can bat away the critics by saying well this is the reality

I hope I get a date with Kate Beckingsale but that's very unlikely to happen too. You'll just have to be content with having got rid of the Tories. And replacing them with a party doing largely the same thing. Congratulations.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I hope I get a date with Kate Beckingsale but that's very unlikely to happen too. You'll just have to be content with having got rid of the Tories. And replacing them with a party doing largely the same thing. Congratulations.

Well I would rather labour in charge than the Tories

Hopefully enough tinkering around the edges can make some sort of difference to people's lives

I think it was the leader of unite union that was on newsnight demanding this and that from an incoming Labour government

I just wish she and others would just stf up until the new government , if elected , bedded in

They just can't help themselves

Still it appears corbyn might be beaten in Islington so not all bad news

[Eric Cartman]

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I think at least 2-3 days a week collaborative working is generally best for the long term for individuals, a business and society generally really. There's a sweet spot for a small number of people that earn London weighting whilst living miles away I don't there's much evidence it solving the housing affordability crisis at all. Made it worse if anything

I am expected in the office once a month, I am currently part of the tightest, most productive team I have worked in. I could buy a 3bed fixer upper near family just outside of inverness for 140k (I wouldn't get half a 2bed round here for that), travel down for work and still be miles better off.

Ah, the fabled sweet spot where houses cost 10x the median salary , you travel for 3 hours a day to get to work and your extra salary barely covers your train fare. Lucky bastards. Not to mention the ripple effect which makes it harder to live and work in areas where people who work in London move to.

Being in the office is 'better for society'? I would love to hear how that is more important to 'society' than being able to live/work in the same community, being able to have free time (not swallowed up by a sweaty commute) and for younger people to have enough security in their lives/finances to start a family.

[az city]

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I am paying proportionately less tax than I was 9 months ago. That's a fact.

The misleading statement you made that I corrected for you had nothing to do with that.

[az city]

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I am expected in the office once a month, I am currently part of the tightest, most productive team I have worked in. I could buy a 3bed fixer upper near family just outside of inverness for 140k (I wouldn't get half a 2bed round here for that), travel down for work and still be miles better off.

Ah, the fabled sweet spot where houses cost 10x the median salary , you travel for 3 hours a day to get to work and your extra salary barely covers your train fare. Lucky bastards. Not to mention the ripple effect which makes it harder to live and work in areas where people who work in London move to.

Being in the office is 'better for society'? I would love to hear how that is more important to 'society' than being able to live/work in the same community, being able to have free time (not swallowed up by a sweaty commute) and for younger people to have enough security in their lives/finances to start a family.

My point isn't about office working etc.

If people with higher incomes move to lower-priced areas, how would the locals feel?

[Eric Cartman]

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My point isn't about office working etc.

If people with higher incomes move to lower-priced areas, how would the locals feel?

I don't know. What are you classing as a higher income? I don't think it's right to expect younger people to live in some kind of perpetual 'just about make ends meet each month's rat race in the south east of england if they can obtain a better quality of life elsewhere.

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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Well I would rather labour in charge than the Tories

You've made that pretty clear. But it seems to be the "name" Tories you object to. It doesn't seem to matter to you what an alternative party would actually do, just so long as they aren't called Tories. Which is fine but a bit odd.

[pipster]

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You've made that pretty clear. But it seems to be the "name" Tories you object to. It doesn't seem to matter to you what an alternative party would actually do, just so long as they aren't called Tories. Which is fine but a bit odd.

There is no point - he is a lost cause. Pent up angry little man, forever single, like the weird uncle who is socially awkward. Blames everyone else for his own shortcomings and has anti anti Tory fetish - whilst living in heart of a Tory county. He is a strange one - at least he gets his kicks on a football msgboard rather than being a nuisance elsewhere (as far as we know anyway)

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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You've made that pretty clear. But it seems to be the "name" Tories you object to. It doesn't seem to matter to you what an alternative party would actually do, just so long as they aren't called Tories. Which is fine but a bit odd.

It's not just the name I object to

The arrogance of them in office is staggering

I hope that as much as they are able to do given the fact people want better services......without increased taxation ......we have a lot more shape about labour

Some people are saying oh no taxes will go up , the unions will take over , our kids will be having sex education at 2 years old and other such rubbish

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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It's not just the name I object to

The arrogance of them in office is staggering

I hope that as much as they are able to do given the fact people want better services......without increased taxation ......we have a lot more shape about labour

Some people are saying oh no taxes will go up , the unions will take over , our kids will be having sex education at 2 years old and other such rubbish

Again, it's their attitude rather than their policies you don't like. I don't know what a lot more shape means but it doesn't sound like any form of socialism I've come across.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Again, it's their attitude rather than their policies you don't like. I don't know what a lot more shape means but it doesn't sound like any form of socialism I've come across.

Oh it's their policies too

They deserve to be slung out for Rwanda alone

Someone with not a lot of shape on them is badly organised , performs badly , late or doesn't turn up , makes excuses etc .......that's them all over .......a bit like VG and Welsh Labour at the moment

Very badly delivered government

With regard to socialism I am not a socialist more a liberal really but in the absence of the liberals running the country the labour party is the next best thing although far from perfect

I would suggest you vote green , at least they will get your backing

It seems daft not to vote even if no one party is attractive

[JamesWales]

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I guess we'll find out pretty soon whether Rwanda was working or not.

Could have a Labour government on one side of the channel and a National Rally government on the other side within weeks.

I wonder what National Rally's position will be?Obviously they will go strong on legal and illegal immigration and will likely focus on keeping people out of Europe, but what of the northern coast? Will they be strong to prevent more people gathering around Calais, or will they be happy to see people leave and become our problem?

Will Labour be happy to go into collaboration with the party many of their supporters label as Far-Right fascists etc?

[Wales-Bales]

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You've made that pretty clear. But it seems to be the "name" Tories you object to. It doesn't seem to matter to you what an alternative party would actually do, just so long as they aren't called Tories. Which is fine but a bit odd.

Don't worry, we are going to find out soon enough!