Amsterdam Violence

[Dorcus]

Re: Amsterdam Violence

Bizarre to think they think can burn flag and get away with it….talk about piss take. How fkin stupid are they? Local Jews more likely or flew in from Israel?

Both from what is reported. Violence is always to be condemned but there's no doubt these have been very silly people. It looks like the local Ajax ultras didn't step in to help them.

[delmbox]

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there is verified evidence that they beat up an Arab taxi-driver, attacked people's houses and tore down Pal flags, chanted disgusting slogans about Arabs and how there aren't any schools in Gaza because there aren't any children, chanted during the minute's silence about Valencia, some of them were IDF, they beat up an Arab in Athens in March, and then got caught by some Dutch Moroccans who'd had enough. They are racist genociders who went there to cause trouble.

All of them? Or were some beaten up just because they're Jewish?

I thought that generally we were against persecuting innocent people because they're associated by race or religion with some guilty people

[jon1959]

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All of them? Or were some beaten up just because they're Jewish?

I thought that generally we were against persecuting innocent people because they're associated by race or religion with some guilty people

If they were beaten up because they are Jewish that is racist violence and totally indefensible.

If they were beaten up because they were wearing the same club colours, and waving the same flags, as the racist scumbags who attacked an Arab taxi driver and burned a Palestinian flag, that is violence against probably mostly innocent people and totally indefensible.

If they were beaten up because they are racist scumbags who attacked an Arab taxi driver, burned a Palestinian flag, and marched through Amsterdam chanting racist slogans and glorifying the mass murder of children my sympathy has run out!

[JamesWales]

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there is verified evidence that they beat up an Arab taxi-driver, attacked people's houses and tore down Pal flags, chanted disgusting slogans about Arabs and how there aren't any schools in Gaza because there aren't any children, chanted during the minute's silence about Valencia, some of them were IDF, they beat up an Arab in Athens in March, and then got caught by some Dutch Moroccans who'd had enough. They are racist genociders who went there to cause trouble.

Who is "they"

If anyone beat up a taxi driver, then charge them.

Its not an excuse to go around hunting Jews as seemed to be confirmed last night.

Honest to god wtf.

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If they were beaten up because they are Jewish that is racist violence and totally indefensible.

If they were beaten up because they were wearing the same club colours, and waving the same flags, as the racist scumbags who attacked an Arab taxi driver and burned a Palestinian flag, that is violence against probably mostly innocent people and totally indefensible.

If they were beaten up because they are racist scumbags who attacked an Arab taxi driver, burned a Palestinian flag, and marched through Amsterdam chanting racist slogans and glorifying the mass murder of children my sympathy has run out!

Agreed x 3

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Who is "they"

If anyone beat up a taxi driver, then charge them.

Its not an excuse to go around hunting Jews as seemed to be confirmed last night.

Honest to god wtf.

So the attacks on the Arabic taxi driver didn't happen ?

But the attacks on innocent Jewish football fans did ?

You making a complete arse out of yourself here

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Who is "they"

If anyone beat up a taxi driver, then charge them.

Its not an excuse to go around hunting Jews as seemed to be confirmed last night.

Honest to god wtf.

The police have video footage , shown on the news , of tel aviv fans chanting anti Arab racist abuse

The BBC blanked out the chanting which is surprising as they are normally accused of being pro Palestinian......showing it would have had greater effect

Forget about giving people the excuse to commit acts of violence , this is what happened , along with the burning of a Palestinian flag and another being ripped down

These are facts

No point in wanting fairness if you brush away facts you don't like with suggestions that something didn't happen or pour scorn on it ......IF the police have evidence of a Muslim taxi driver being assaulted ....arrest them ....? ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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IDF you say, were they the ringleaders?

You are even more stupid than you appear

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The police have video footage , shown on the news , of tel aviv fans chanting anti Arab racist abuse

The BBC blanked out the chanting which is surprising as they are normally accused of being pro Palestinian......showing it would have had greater effect

Forget about giving people the excuse to commit acts of violence , this is what happened , along with the burning of a Palestinian flag and another being ripped down

These are facts

No point in wanting fairness if you brush away facts you don't like with suggestions that something didn't happen or pour scorn on it ......IF the police have evidence of a Muslim taxi driver being assaulted ....arrest them ....? ?

I've got no sympathy for dickheads who were chanting anti Arab abuse and burning Palestinian flags being beaten up but surely you agree that not all of the Tel Aviv fans would have been guilty of that stuff, and the people beating up the innocent ones just for being Jewish should be condemned?

[Wales-Bales]

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You are even more stupid than you appear

Somebody said there were IDF members amongst them. I ask what role they were playing, and if that's a stupid question, then I am stupid

[Dorcus]

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I've got no sympathy for dickheads who were chanting anti Arab abuse and burning Palestinian flags being beaten up but surely you agree that not all of the Tel Aviv fans would have been guilty of that stuff, and the people beating up the innocent ones just for being Jewish should be condemned?

Agree and of course the violence was unnecessary. However, in the circumstances this was a high risk game. Maybe the police could have handled it better, I don't know.

However, there has been worse. Back 20 years ago two Leeds fans were knifed to death for desecrating a Turkish flag. Nobody talked about anti British violence then. With the slaughter in Gaza and Lebanon continuing unabated surely the Tel Aviv fans could have acted with some restraint at least.

[Dorcus]

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Who is "they"

If anyone beat up a taxi driver, then charge them.

Its not an excuse to go around hunting Jews as seemed to be confirmed last night.

Honest to god wtf.

Jim,

You sometimes offer a reasonable argument, you are going overboard tonight

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I've got no sympathy for dickheads who were chanting anti Arab abuse and burning Palestinian flags being beaten up but surely you agree that not all of the Tel Aviv fans would have been guilty of that stuff, and the people beating up the innocent ones just for being Jewish should be condemned?

That's to be addressed to someone else as appropriate as it goes without saying

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Somebody said there were IDF members amongst them. I ask what role they were playing, and if that's a stupid question, then I am stupid

I just lobbed that one in you complete simpleton

[az city]

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So the attacks on the Arabic taxi driver didn't happen ?

But the attacks on innocent Jewish football fans did ?

You making a complete arse out of yourself here

One of Idiot's favourite tactics is to conveniently forget half of a discussion or ignore anything relevant you might point out to him. He then tailors his answer to favour his one-eyed agenda. He's totally deluded.