Amsterdam Violence

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I've been agreeing with the police, the Dutch PM, mayor of Amsterdam and the media.

All of whom know far more about this than you.

They have all been had , just like you

You are still going on and on but the initial post ....mine ......and the latest ones are the reality

Right wing Israeli thugs cause trouble .....initial footage was not them being HUNTED as Jews 😆 ....it was them attacking locals.....your media doctored the footage as shown here

Then they get attacked

And get a right kicking


Everything else is whining nonsense which you are backing up because to see the reality would be JW being wrong 🙃

Carry on whining

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When did I call you an antisemite?

How is acknowledging that antisemitic attacks occured remotely tied to a geopolitical position on Israel?

You have been whining like Netanyahu since your first post on this matter , it's pathetic

Israeli thugs 0

Amsterdam locals 1

The politisisation of this has backfired on Israel but they still have JW to talk cobblers

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Dick Schoof: "we are well aware of Maccabi hooligans attacking a taxi, burning a Palestinian flag and shouting anti-Arabic slogans but we consider that a different category"

Says all that needs to be said. He just as well have gone on to say "this was just high jinks by Israelis, they can do no wrong!"

😆

It really is so pathetic it's funny

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No outrage from those same politicians about the mass murder of men, women and children in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank - the vast majority not part of any armed resistance. Over 50 dead in the same timeframe as the Amsterdam incidents.

Very little news coverage either. That has been dominated by a largely manufactured story of 'antisemitic attacks on peaceful Maccabi fans in Amsterdam'. No doubt antisemitism played some part - but it appears to be almost all a reaction to what the Maccabi fans did.

This in a city that has held regular and large demonstrations for a year to protest the genocide in Gaza - and every time with a very prominent contingent of Jewish people taking part.

The hypocrisy and cynicism is breathtaking.

Tell that JW idiot

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Wtf are you going on about now?

You

Absolute evidence of the initial violence being deviously shown as Arab attacks on poor innocent tel aviv fans

But it was right wing Israeli thugs attacking locals

Your silence is breathtaking

Your answer .....well yeah but no ....

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How can you not see how bad what you are writing here?

If someone sets fire to a Palestinian Flag that is of course a deeply ignorant, stupid and insensitive thing to do and it provokes a reaction. The person doing it it to blame.

That doesn't justify hunting down and beating up entirely different sets of people because they are Israeli or Jewish.

If a Muslim guy burnt the British flag it doesn't mean a bunch of people are justified to go around hunting down and beating up random Muslims. It's no different.

Seriously, wtf?!
Read the room ?


Read the room. The mayor of Amsterdam herself has labelled it antisemitic. You are allowed to criticise casual random racist attacks against people. It doesn't change your wider views on the conflict.

Read the room ?
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What a drip you are

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If being against random Jews makes someone right wing then yes I will side with them.

Who the hell are you siding with?

Honestly the state of this thread!

You sanctimonious ponce

What random attacks on Jews are you talking about?

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Why is the mayor of Amsterdam and the Dutch PM lying then?

They are either lying or falling in with the programme

Like you

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My bias? I am merely stating that it seems very likely that serious antisemitic attacks occured. And that seems to be verified.

Do you not think that is the case? If so why are the politicians lying?

You are merely stating the same line to prevent you from looking wrong and stupid

It's a can of worms

It's gone from disgusting attacks on innocent Jews, systematic anti sematic attacks , a return of nazi germany......to .....well this is a bit of a stich up

The last podcast by NM news puts you in a little box , I only wish I was as eloquent as those two

[JamesWales]

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You sanctimonious ponce

What random attacks on Jews are you talking about?

I mean there is a chance that all this is bollocks and that you are right, but I'm pretty content going with the authorities in Amsterdam to be honest. Why do you think they are lying? Or are they just not as "in the know" as you Sludge? Is that it? You know more than the Dutch police and mayor or Amsterdam is it?

None of this changes the situation in Palestine? None of it excuses some criminal behaviour from Maccabi Tel Aviv fans. But you seem to be going out of your way to justify it or say it didn't really happen.

"Authorities say Thursday's attacks - which caused five people to be hospitalised - were motivated by antisemitism as the fans were sought out across the city."

"We must not turn blind eye to antisemitism, says Dutch king after attacks on Israeli football fans"

"I am deeply ashamed of the behaviour that unfolded," Halsema told reporters. "On Telegram [messaging] groups people talked of going to hunt down Jews. It's so terrible I can't find the words for it."

"The national co-ordinator for combating antisemitism in the Netherlands said a line had been crossed and the "readiness to commit such violence was disgusting".

Prime Minister Dick Schoof said earlier on Monday that "antisemitic attacks against Israelis and Jews" were "nothing short of shocking and reprehensible".

"Halsema and the heads of the Dutch police and prosecution said at a press conference on Friday that violence by “rioters and criminals” aimed at some of the 2,600 “Jewish Israeli visitors” had left five people in hospital and 20 to 30 with minor injuries. There were reports of fireworks set off, people being thrown into canals and some Maccabi supporters being asked for identity documents in order to be allowed back to their hotels."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/10/amsterdam-police-charge-four-after-attack-on-israeli-football-fans

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78dzr432x7o

Police share images of those wanted in "jew hunt"

https://www.telegraaf.nl/video/1379400261/politie-deelt-beelden-van-verdachten-jodenjacht

[Dorcus]

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I mean there is a chance that all this is bollocks and that you are right, but I'm pretty content going with the authorities in Amsterdam to be honest. Why do you think they are lying? Or are they just not as "in the know" as you Sludge? Is that it? You know more than the Dutch police and mayor or Amsterdam is it?

None of this changes the situation in Palestine? None of it excuses some criminal behaviour from Maccabi Tel Aviv fans. But you seem to be going out of your way to justify it or say it didn't really happen.

"Authorities say Thursday's attacks - which caused five people to be hospitalised - were motivated by antisemitism as the fans were sought out across the city."

"We must not turn blind eye to antisemitism, says Dutch king after attacks on Israeli football fans"

"I am deeply ashamed of the behaviour that unfolded," Halsema told reporters. "On Telegram [messaging] groups people talked of going to hunt down Jews. It's so terrible I can't find the words for it."

"The national co-ordinator for combating antisemitism in the Netherlands said a line had been crossed and the "readiness to commit such violence was disgusting".

Prime Minister Dick Schoof said earlier on Monday that "antisemitic attacks against Israelis and Jews" were "nothing short of shocking and reprehensible".

"Halsema and the heads of the Dutch police and prosecution said at a press conference on Friday that violence by “rioters and criminals” aimed at some of the 2,600 “Jewish Israeli visitors” had left five people in hospital and 20 to 30 with minor injuries. There were reports of fireworks set off, people being thrown into canals and some Maccabi supporters being asked for identity documents in order to be allowed back to their hotels."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/10/amsterdam-police-charge-four-after-attack-on-israeli-football-fans

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78dzr432x7o

Police share images of those wanted in "jew hunt"
https://www.telegraaf.nl/video/13794...ten-jodenjacht

The more people like you stick with the corrupt establishment and pretend about all this anti-Jewish bollocks the more innocent people you condemn to their deaths by the Israeli death squads.

[JamesWales]

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The more people like you stick with the corrupt establishment and pretend about all this anti-Jewish bollocks the more innocent people you condemn to their deaths by the Israeli death squads.

Best to keep quiet when I read a comment like that. Especially when it's in response to quotes made by people far closer to the events than anyone on here.

[Dorcus]

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Best to keep quiet when I read a comment like that. Especially when it's in response to quotes made by people far closer to the events than anyone on here.

I think it's the first time you've been right in your life. Best to keep quiet and maybe she'd a tear for the pitiless people who are being wantonly slaughtered!

Goof for you in this instance 👍

[JamesWales]

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I think it's the first time you've been right in your life. Best to keep quiet and maybe she'd a tear for the pitiless people who are being wantonly slaughtered!

Goof for you in this instance 👍

Wow, doubling down on the comment too.

[Dorcus]

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Wow, doubling down on the comment too.

I figured it wouldn't last long