Farmers are revolting

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Re: Farmers are revolting

The end of farming lol 😆

Bullshit

No iht since 1984

The farmers of the cold, winter hills struggle but most of em are well in

They voted brexit

They voted Tory

Suck it up

Jeremy Clarkson ? Feed him to the vegans

[Eric Cartman]

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The difference of course is that the asset is fundamental to the job of farming. Owning land may be an asset to me, to sell or develop etc, but for farms it is a requirement of the job.

It does seem another mistake from the government to me. An unnecessary fight and a risky one given the importance and fragility of the sector

Yeah but it's been a loophole for tossers like Clarkson to abuse for years. When you change a tax, there will always be some people who feel a bit hard done by.

I think all this really highlights if another delusion within the British public. If so many farmers are legitimately barely scraping by then a) we don't actually have 'food security' and consumers need to pay more and b) a hefty proportion of the next generation that inherit the the farms will just sell them anyway, why wouldn't you if you are sitting on an asset worth millions that you can only earning 20k a year from. Now, there will be farmers struggling but my guess is a lot are actually making a decent margin and can afford it.

It feels like every story about removal of exemptions and benefits (vat on private schools, farmers iht, wfa) only focuses on the few who will be hit a bit by it and not the many who can actually afford it.

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Yeah but it's been a loophole for tossers like Clarkson to abuse for years. When you change a tax, there will always be some people who feel a bit hard done by.

I think all this really highlights if another delusion within the British public. If so many farmers are legitimately barely scraping by then a) we don't actually have 'food security' and consumers need to pay more and b) a hefty proportion of the next generation that inherit the the farms will just sell them anyway, why wouldn't you if you are sitting on an asset worth millions that you can only earning 20k a year from. Now, there will be farmers struggling but my guess is a lot are actually making a decent margin and can afford it.

It feels like every story about removal of exemptions and benefits (vat on private schools, farmers iht, wfa) only focuses on the few who will be hit a bit by it and not the many who can actually afford it.

Very few will be hit by this

But the tory boys in the farming community ...thats most of them ....and their tory backers will rinse this

Absolute chancers

I would love to see Clarkson on his knees , suffering financially , he's a total ditto head

[Eric Cartman]

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I'm not that bothered either way with the inheritance tax changes - although I can see the sense in the Will Hutton argument, and the 70,000+ farms affected figure thrown about by the NFU, the Tories, the Lib Dems and the Tory press is deliberately misleading.

But I agree with you on your main point (wow!). I think the Budget focus should have been on taxing profits - especially excess profits - and not some of the other measures that are bound to wash through to jobs, wages and prices (employer NI etc).

The Starmer government is a typical centrist western Neo Liberal government of the past quarter century and seems happy to look on as a massive wealth transfer takes place from the poor (and some not so poor) to the mega rich. Despite the shallow roots, Starmer's huge majority was an opportunity to introduce radical game-changing policies and Starmer/Reeves opted for status quo fiddling in the budget. The needle nudged slightly on the side of progressive/redistributive but only slightly.

Why wouldn't a tax on excessive profits affect wages/employees or consumers if employer NI does? It's just the cost of doing business going up and the majority would either find a way to avoid it or do exactly as they say they will do with the NI rise and kick employees or the consumer. They can't avoid employer NI so they are kicking off.

If you believe tesco, the world is going to end. How has a large supermarket been able to absorb 10% rises in the min wage but not a small rise in employer NI?

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He's saying now that he only said that because he didn't want to admit that he'd bought the farm for shooting pheasants

Is that a silent h?

[JamesWales]

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Yeah but it's been a loophole for tossers like Clarkson to abuse for years. When you change a tax, there will always be some people who feel a bit hard done by.

I think all this really highlights if another delusion within the British public. If so many farmers are legitimately barely scraping by then a) we don't actually have 'food security' and consumers need to pay more and b) a hefty proportion of the next generation that inherit the the farms will just sell them anyway, why wouldn't you if you are sitting on an asset worth millions that you can only earning 20k a year from. Now, there will be farmers struggling but my guess is a lot are actually making a decent margin and can afford it.

It feels like every story about removal of exemptions and benefits (vat on private schools, farmers iht, wfa) only focuses on the few who will be hit a bit by it and not the many who can actually afford it.

I think a better way to close the loophole is to tax any profits if it's removed from agricultural use.

Punishing passing farms on to children seems a bad and unfair idea. I can see why they are pissed off.

Strikes me as another own goal by the govt too.

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All else aside I'm not sure if Clarkson, as someone who's said that he bought a farm to avoid inheritance tax, being the face of the protests is the best idea for them. Sure fire way to lose sympathy

[JamesWales]

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All else aside I'm not sure if Clarkson, as someone who's said that he bought a farm to avoid inheritance tax, being the face of the protests is the best idea for them. Sure fire way to lose sympathy

Yeah I think whilst they can help in giving support, they are never the best figureheads.

[Dorcus]

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Fair play there are some right ***** on here , but you’re the biggest of them all full of hate and jealousy, all in the knowledge that you’re spouting nonsense behind the safety of your keyboard.

As someone else pointed out PM me some details to see if we have things in common on social media as you sound delusional and deranged , and I’m sure you’re not?

Fair play you're a lunatic and the biggest twat on here. Go and **** yourself

[jeepster]

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Sometimes its Pensioners but that's O.K isn't it ?

That is not the topic.

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farms should be sold off after the farmer dies , tax the rich, yes i have shares in blackrock

[Dorcus]

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Fair play there are some right ***** on here , but you’re the biggest of them all full of hate and jealousy, all in the knowledge that you’re spouting nonsense behind the safety of your keyboard.

As someone else pointed out PM me some details to see if we have things in common on social media as you sound delusional and deranged , and I’m sure you’re not?

What details do I need to pm a thick twat like you which I can't post direct on here? Listen we all know you're right up your arse but I'm not interested in engaging with a moron like you, get it? Bollocks to your abuse. The more you don't like about me the more I like it. You're an utter abomination and you want to be careful who you are threatening. You mind we'll end up getting your silly head kicked in.

[Dorcus]

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farms should be sold off after the farmer dies , tax the rich, yes i have shares in blackrock

I got shares in Blackpool Rock too, and Barry rock.

[JamesWales]

Re: Farmers are revolting

Calm down you silly buggers!

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Right that's enough wasted time on the farmers

Rugger buggers and tory voters

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