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    :facepalm:

    Keir Starmer has scrapped a summit with Hillsborough families amid fury over his promised truth & justice law. The PM was due to meet tonight with campaigners over fears that a bill to protect victims of disasters had been watered down by officials https://t.co/S8wnRZCrno

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    Starmer keeps surprising me.

    Just when I think he can't be a bigger twat, and he has reached rock bottom, he finds a way.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
      Starmer keeps surprising me.

      Just when I think he can't be a bigger twat, and he has reached rock bottom, he finds a way.
      Please is there anyone who can step up if he gets hit by a bus ?

      In the commons the other day I was looking at rayner , Cooper, kendal , nandy , streeting , Reeves all nodding along

      No shape in any of them

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      • #4
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        What is their objection in the bill? I have not read much on it so genuinely curious

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          Own it guys he's your man.

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
            What is their objection in the bill? I have not read much on it so genuinely curious
            It looks like once you get into the nuts and bolts of it, the bill has been watered down to the point where the protections are next to meaningless and that the campaign are still hopeful of a complete reset and a more robust bill after dialogue with the leadership. This is one of those situations where the headline doesn't really match the story. Time will tell if labour want to engage with the campaign and create something meaningful.

            Our press needs clickbait to survive, I remember reading all sorts of 'economic doom' headlines around the time of NI rise, all quoting portions of statements by the CBI. I was a bit baffled as it didn't feel like the kind of change that could destroy the economy and went to look at the CBI statement in full, it painted a very different picture to what the press was luring people in with.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
              It looks like once you get into the nuts and bolts of it, the bill has been watered down to the point where the protections are next to meaningless and that the campaign are still hopeful of a complete reset and a more robust bill after dialogue with the leadership. This is one of those situations where the headline doesn't really match the story. Time will tell if labour want to engage with the campaign and create something meaningful.

              Our press needs clickbait to survive, I remember reading all sorts of 'economic doom' headlines around the time of NI rise, all quoting portions of statements by the CBI. I was a bit baffled as it didn't feel like the kind of change that could destroy the economy and went to look at the CBI statement in full, it painted a very different picture to what the press was luring people in with.
              Yeah I do find Peter Stefanovic tends to be rather click-baity. This is where optics count in politics though isn't it. Certain groups you just really need to have on side, or at least do everything you can to do so.

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                Own it guys he's your man.
                One thing you’ll get from us on the “far left” is honesty as far as Labour is concerned - it’s not like the blind devotion you get from those on the other side of the fence. Truthfully, I had very low expectations regarding Starmer pre the election, but I’ve been shocked as to how I can find virtually nothing I can relate to him about - he’s a football fan I suppose, but it’s a struggle after that, I honestly can’t see how he ever joined the Labour Party in the first place.

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                  Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                  It looks like once you get into the nuts and bolts of it, the bill has been watered down to the point where the protections are next to meaningless and that the campaign are still hopeful of a complete reset and a more robust bill after dialogue with the leadership. This is one of those situations where the headline doesn't really match the story. Time will tell if labour want to engage with the campaign and create something meaningful.

                  Our press needs clickbait to survive, I remember reading all sorts of 'economic doom' headlines around the time of NI rise, all quoting portions of statements by the CBI. I was a bit baffled as it didn't feel like the kind of change that could destroy the economy and went to look at the CBI statement in full, it painted a very different picture to what the press was luring people in with.
                  Well Labour have had getting towards two days now to get their side of the story out and Ive not seen or heard anything yet on that front - maybe they’ve decided they don’t need a Director of Communications after the last one resigned?

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                    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                    One thing you’ll get from us on the “far left” is honesty as far as Labour is concerned - it’s not like the blind devotion you get from those on the other side of the fence. Truthfully, I had very low expectations regarding Starmer pre the election, but I’ve been shocked as to how I can find virtually nothing I can relate to him about - he’s a football fan I suppose, but it’s a struggle after that, I honestly can’t see how he ever joined the Labour Party in the first place.
                    There's no point in debating the state of the country with a conspiracy theorist who doesn't vote

                    It's like the French resistance trying to persuade the I can't be bothered peasants moaning about the nazis

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                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      One thing you’ll get from us on the “far left” is honesty as far as Labour is concerned - it’s not like the blind devotion you get from those on the other side of the fence. Truthfully, I had very low expectations regarding Starmer pre the election, but I’ve been shocked as to how I can find virtually nothing I can relate to him about - he’s a football fan I suppose, but it’s a struggle after that, I honestly can’t see how he ever joined the Labour Party in the first place.
                      Just like David Cameron , Starmer is a Big fan of the Smiths so that's good enough for me :thumbup:

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                        Just like David Cameron , Starmer is a Big fan of the Smiths so that's good enough for me :thumbup:

                        https://www.brooklynvegan.com/new-br...dding-present/
                        I always thought he was a floppy haired student type

                        I can imagine him poncing up and down outside a indie nonsense gig in his stupid long coat crombie and Mark Kermode barber crop

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                          Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                          Just like David Cameron , Starmer is a Big fan of the Smiths so that's good enough for me :thumbup:

                          https://www.brooklynvegan.com/new-br...dding-present/
                          Yeah, I’d read somewhere he had liked some good bands in his early years, so that’s something in his favour, but, really, I can’t see past things like him getting free glasses and suits as a perk of the job - I’m probably showing my naivety here, but Labour politicians shouldn’t be doing things like that.

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                          • #14
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                            I'm not really sure what people expected? The same fiscal and market pressures that boxed in Liz Truss apply now. Their very narrow definition of "crashing the economy" means that they are only ever a hairs breadth from that themselves. The reality of problems like immigration and housing and the small boats etc are now theirs to deal with and they realize it's much harder in government. Labour are now even talking about third countries themselves, which makes me angry as they should have supported the last govt on it

                            Rejected asylum seekers could reportedly be sent to the Balkans and other third-party countries under new Labour plans to tackle small boats.


                            I do think they deserve some credit for apparently reducing waiting lists, albeit slightly and apparently when compared to a time of a jnr doctors strike, but still. I think he has shown some fairly good diplomatic skills treading difficult territory too. Finally, they do deserve more time of course.

                            But yeah, life is no better than under the Tories and it was never going to be really.

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                              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                              I'm not really sure what people expected? The same fiscal and market pressures that boxed in Liz Truss apply now. Their very narrow definition of "crashing the economy" means that they are only ever a hairs breadth from that themselves. The reality of problems like immigration and housing and the small boats etc are now theirs to deal with and they realize it's much harder in government. Labour are now even talking about third countries themselves, which makes me angry as they should have supported the last govt on it

                              Rejected asylum seekers could reportedly be sent to the Balkans and other third-party countries under new Labour plans to tackle small boats.


                              I do think they deserve some credit for apparently reducing waiting lists, albeit slightly and apparently when compared to a time of a jnr doctors strike, but still. I think he has shown some fairly good diplomatic skills treading difficult territory too. Finally, they do deserve more time of course.

                              But yeah, life is no better than under the Tories and it was never going to be really.
                              Apparently , slightly , apparently

                              You absolute ponce

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