Palestine Action

[stevo]

Re: Palestine Action

Nice to see the BBC reporting on this too.

[JamesWales]

Re: Palestine Action

Stuff like this just totally undermines institutions like the UN really. The only reason people on here are vocal about is because they are left wing. If it were the other side of politics you would all be calling for them to be banned - as they would have been years ago

[stevo]

Re: Palestine Action

Oh FFS

[JamesWales]

Re: Palestine Action

Oh FFS

When did a UN human rights chief last intervene on such matters?

[stevo]

Re: Palestine Action

When did a UN human rights chief last intervene on such matters?

Probably not often enough. Genocide is genocide, right?

[jon1959]

Re: Palestine Action

When did a UN human rights chief last intervene on such matters?

Oh FFS




He seems to be very consistent. Which is good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volker_Türk

[JamesWales]

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Probably not often enough. Genocide is genocide, right?

Ironically enough I don't think they have formally declared that.

But that has nothing to do with Palestine Action. Whatever the rights and wrongs of something morally, you can't take the law into your own hands.

[JamesWales]

Re: Palestine Action

Oh FFS




He seems to be very consistent. Which is good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volker_Türk

Thought you would like him!

[stevo]

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Ironically enough I don't think they have formally declared that.

But that has nothing to do with Palestine Action. Whatever the rights and wrongs of something morally, you can't take the law into your own hands.

Right. So what you’re saying is that until they declare it’s genocide in Gaza you’re happy to assume it’s not? Whatever.

As for Palestine Action - what they’re doing is an act of war. And a just war at that. It is NOT terrorism. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[JamesWales]

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Right. So what you’re saying is that until they declare it’s genocide in Gaza you’re happy to assume it’s not? Whatever.

As for Palestine Action - what they’re doing is an act of war. And a just war at that. It is NOT terrorism. Wake up and smell the coffee.

I think the legal definition of things does matter tbh.

[Wash DC Blue]

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I speak with my old Man twice a week.
He’s as working class as they come, always voted Labour and been a Union Member, he encouraged me to join The Union that I did in my first proper job after leaving school.

He has now decided to vote Reform and explained to me why.
Yet, He’s still very pragmatic and measured in his views, he really doesn’t like Kier Starmer but believes that it is essential that people get behind him and hope for the best as it’s in the Country’s interest for him to do well. He voted Remain in Brexit and after the vote…we have to go with what the people voted for.

Last night he really let go on the situation of The Palestinian crisis in Gaza which is really unlike him. I think I brought it out of him talking about a few documentaries that I have watched this last week about Yugoslavia.
My Dad calling out the atrocities in Gaza with the passion that he did surprised me.

I’m going to try and take some time to reassess my cynicism of the situation.

[stevo]

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I think the legal definition of things does matter tbh.

So, are you seeing a difference between the legal definition of genocide and what’s happening in Gaza? If so, please explain.

[MOZZER2]

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I speak with my old Man twice a week.
He’s as working class as they come, always voted Labour and been a Union Member, he encouraged me to join The Union that I did in my first proper job after leaving school.

He has now decided to vote Reform and explained to me why.
Yet, He’s still very pragmatic and measured in his views, he really doesn’t like Kier Starmer but believes that it is essential that people get behind him and hope for the best as it’s in the Country’s interest for him to do well. He voted Remain in Brexit and after the vote…we have to go with what the people voted for.

Last night he really let go on the situation of The Palestinian crisis in Gaza which is really unlike him. I think I brought it out of him talking about a few documentaries that I have watched this last week about Yugoslavia.
My Dad calling out the atrocities in Gaza with the passion that he did surprised me.

I’m going to try and take some time to reassess my cynicism of the situation.

you mentioned Yugoslavia there

intrigued to know what you mean in relation to the Palestine situation ?

I might be going to Bosnia in a few weeks time i,m 50 50 at the minute

[Wash DC Blue]

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you mentioned Yugoslavia there

intrigued to know what you mean in relation to the Palestine situation ?

I might be going to Bosnia in a few weeks time i,m 50 50 at the minute

This last week I’ve watched a few documentaries about the fall of Yugoslavia including a six part series on BBC IPlayer that I believe was made in 1995.
So before the Kosovo conflict later and before the war crimes tribunal at The Hague.

It has interviews with most of the major players including Milosevic, Tudjman, Radivan Karadzic and Izetbegovic as well as UN Generals, David Owen and The US Ambassador at the time.

It really is compelling viewing but incredibly grim.

I watched another documentary on YouTube which was about 2 and a half hours long which gives a little deeper understanding of how Yugoslavia came to be, The way that Marshal Tito held it together, the Socialist economy that was initially prosperous but eventually failed and how decades if not centuries of resentment of the various ethnicities of each country came to the surface and resulted in genocide, ethnic cleansing and brutality beyond imagination.

Here is the second documentary that I watched, but I’d highly recommend The Fall of Yugoslavia on IPlayer as well.

https://youtu.be/OkQOQUrayxo?si=2xdCCL6uvW1ErKip

[jon1959]

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And now the police have decided not to arrest peaceful protestors challenging the proscription!

Maybe the stupidity of the situation is finally seeping through to police chiefs. Just needs to reach the government!

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/news/2025/07/27/george-monbiot-protest/?__s=hheshtdmarsdn8syijsb

In a further indication of the chaos and confusion that the proscription of Palestine Action has plunged the police into, eight sign holders in Totnes (including George Monbiot) and three in Edinburgh on Saturday 26 July sat for sixty minutes without being arrested under the Terrorism Act after they joined a nationwide wave of protest as part of the Defend Our Juries’ campaign, Lift The Ban, opposing the Home Secretary’s classification of the direct action group as a ‘terrorist’ organisation.