Hammering For Labour In Hartlepool

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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You just carry on endorsing a Tory lite Labour Party, Hun, Most of the problems with addiction, Depression, Homeless etc are caused through cuts in services, something your beloved Centrist crew would undoubtedly continue. You're part of the problem me old lover...

Can you tell me how living in tooting in 1977 , shouting power to the people but not actually getting any power to do anything about it is going to help addiction , mental ill health etc ?

I mean having a good old meeting of the socialist workers student society round your house is a good laugh but it doesn't win you elections . Moving to the centre is not the end of civilisation as long as social policy is paramout .

Its 2021 , this country has always been to right with a small c , those of us who can't stand the conservatives have to lower our expectations and try and get what we can

Or forever be shouting from the sidelines in opposition

Electoral reform and a centre left rainbow alliance is the way to defeat the blue machine

Like it or get off the bus

[J R Hartley]

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You don't remember Cambridge United?

When did you stop supporting man u again ?

I remember it very well. I was in the Canton stand for that game. At least we had 2 goals to cheer.

[jon1959]

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[Tuerto]

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Long Corbyn....

[Tuerto]

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Can you tell me how living in tooting in 1977 , shouting power to the people but not actually getting any power to do anything about it is going to help addiction , mental ill health etc ?

I mean having a good old meeting of the socialist workers student society round your house is a good laugh but it doesn't win you elections . Moving to the centre is not the end of civilisation as long as social policy is paramout .

Its 2021 , this country has always been to right with a small c , those of us who can't stand the conservatives have to lower our expectations and try and get what we can

Or forever be shouting from the sidelines in opposition

Electoral reform and a centre left rainbow alliance is the way to defeat the blue machine

Like it or get off the bus

I love the way you portray me. I was in business for 22 years, a sole trader who employed 1 person. Lower Taxation and less regulation would've suited me down to the ground. I grafted, all over the UK. A Tory government wouldn't have hurt my pocket. It's not about that though, is it?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I love the way you portray me. I was in business for 22 years, a sole trader who employed 1 person. Lower Taxation and less regulation would've suited me down to the ground. I grafted, all over the UK. A Tory government wouldn't have hurt my pocket. It's not about that though, is it?

Under this Government taxation is at its highest since 1964 [ 1950's if you include VAT]

[surge]

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Labour have won the mayor position in West of England and Cambridgeshire and Peterborough. Labour have an issue with northern English towns but are growing stronger in cities and in the south of England.

Is that where the young have migrated to because it's where the majority of jobs are following Blair's globalization and then Tory austerity targeting northern England/Labour heartlands?

[Delbert]

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ITV news interviewed voters in Hartlepool on why they voted Conservative.

Cuts in local authority services were blamed on the Labour council rather than 10 years of Tory austerity.

Etonian toff and Bullingdon club member Boris Johnson was described by a woman as probably more of a North East type of person so you could relate to him.

The Tories know if you cloak your policies in the Union Jack you can persuade the many to vote in favour of the few. They must wake up every morning shaking their heads at how they get away with it.

[Elwood Blues]

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Yesterday:

Sir Kier Starmer takes full responsibility for Labours poor election results

Today:

Angela Raynor sacked as Labour Party Chair and National Campaign Coordinator.

Not sure this will end well

[Tuerto]

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Yesterday:

Sir Kier Starmer takes full responsibility for Labours poor election results

Today:

Angela Raynor sacked as Labour Party Chair and National Campaign Coordinator.

Not sure this will end well

He's not going to sack himself, is he Wishful thinking...

[surge]

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Yesterday:

Sir Kier Starmer takes full responsibility for Labours poor election results

Today:

Angela Raynor sacked as Labour Party Chair and National Campaign Coordinator.

Not sure this will end well

I do think the two posts before this one should be paid attention to:

I) Labour are growing in cities and the south of England
Ii) Tories must laugh at how easy it is. Most of their politicians having nothing in common with Hartlepool and yet towns like this think they speak the same language - we all know there is a lack of substance and waiting to see if anyone cares.

But this story will now dominate rest of the week. Own goal.

FFS!! Time to take a break.

[Jordi Culé]

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He's not going to sack himself, is he Wishful thinking...

Hang on, someone to.d me earlier it was Corbyns fault they lost Hartlepool?

Can someone as Sir Keir or Sludge what the fuuck is going on?

[Tuerto]

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Hang on, someone to.d me earlier it was Corbyns fault they lost Hartlepool?

Can someone as Sir Keir or Sludge what the fuuck is going on?

Corbyn needs to stand down again. What the hell does he think he is doing?

[Wash DC Blue]

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https://unherd.com/2021/05/labour-isnt-working/?=frlh

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https://unherd.com/2021/05/labour-isnt-working/?=frlh

Thank you , thats a very interesting article

The working class pro Labour vote that has been lost will see in time that they will be dumped and left behind once the conservatives have used them

What needs to happen now , in England at least , is the formation of an alternative mainstream party to win back those voters when they realise they have been conned

They are not going to return to Labour, its dead . Dead in Scotland and dying in England .

Its all over , its 2021 and I hope those that don't vote tory can be offered an alternative

Those of a centre left , middle ground and former Liberal voting persuasion can be united and if the Labour brand in England is dropped and a clean slate is offered that core Labour vote may join up .


Otherwise its curtains