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  • #16
    Re: Jenrick

    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Get rid of starmer

    Even with a fresh face electoral pacts are the only chance now

    Sooner people realise this the better

    And replace him with who?

    One globalist puppet after another!!!!

    don't be too despondent, in between by elections are generally protest votes with the majority returning to their roots at election day. Without doubt the most disliked PM of my lifetime (although very popular on election day) but he's representing Davos and not the people of the United Kingdom. Look how quickly the Davos brigade got rid of Truss for policies no worse than current mob, what you are seeing under Starmer will be peddled down with future prime ministers .

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    • #17
      Re: Jenrick

      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
      Don't play the whataboutery card, James, don't play the whataboutery card, James!🤣

      Jenrick does need to watch who he is associated with.

      On a more serious note, perhaps the left should stand with concerned often working class communities a little more and not leave a vacuum for others to exploit? 🤷
      I'm not sure if your 'whataboutery' rant is a response to the article I posted but isn't it relevant for the topic which is Robert Jenrick?

      I'm assuming Jenricks research team have massively cocked up?

      If he is comfortable aligning himself with a former member of Combat 18 and supports the Homeland Party I think we got the right to know?

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      • #18
        Re: Jenrick

        Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
        I'm not sure if your 'whataboutery' rant is a response to the article I posted but isn't it relevant for the topic which is Robert Jenrick?

        I'm assuming Jenricks research team have massively cocked up?

        If he is comfortable aligning himself with a former member of Combat 18 and supports the Homeland Party I think we got the right to know?
        I used to think jenrick or any other right wing MP would need to ...watch who he is hanging around with ....including combat 18 neo nazis

        But to be honest for a increasingly large number of voters in this country its probably a reason why they like him

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        • #19
          Re: Jenrick

          Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
          And replace him with who?

          One globalist puppet after another!!!!

          don't be too despondent, in between by elections are generally protest votes with the majority returning to their roots at election day. Without doubt the most disliked PM of my lifetime (although very popular on election day) but he's representing Davos and not the people of the United Kingdom. Look how quickly the Davos brigade got rid of Truss for policies no worse than current mob, what you are seeing under Starmer will be peddled down with future prime ministers .
          Absolutely barking mad

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          • #20
            Re: Jenrick

            I just can’t see Farage losing any sleep over what Jenrick is doing unless there are far more voters to the right of Reform than I think there are. To me, Jenrick is losing far more votes in the so called middle ground than he can hope to gain on the far right, but is my thinking ten, or maybe even five, years out on that?

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            • #21
              Re: Jenrick

              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
              I just can’t see Farage losing any sleep over what Jenrick is doing unless there are far more voters to the right of Reform than I think there are. To me, Jenrick is losing far more votes in the so called middle ground than he can hope to gain on the far right, but is my thinking ten, or maybe even five, years out on that?
              He and the Tories have nowhere to go. They can't compete with Farage and Faragism and they're slipping into oblivion with less right wing voters. This is the last croak from a dying duck.

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              • #22
                Re: Jenrick

                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                I just can’t see Farage losing any sleep over what Jenrick is doing unless there are far more voters to the right of Reform than I think there are. To me, Jenrick is losing far more votes in the so called middle ground than he can hope to gain on the far right, but is my thinking ten, or maybe even five, years out on that?
                With respect, the mistake here is to label this "far- right" (a grossly overused description at the moment).

                People protest about things all the time. Its perfectly reasonable to not want to see a local hotel turned into asylum accommodation without having any say on the matter and those concerns will be understandably sent into overdrive once a 14 year old girl is sexually assaulted.

                I think people would be wise to realise what these protests are in order to draw the full conclusion from it. If you just think it's far-right protesters then it's not understanding the depth of feeling and motivation of those involved.

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                • #23
                  Re: Jenrick

                  Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                  I just can’t see Farage losing any sleep over what Jenrick is doing unless there are far more voters to the right of Reform than I think there are. To me, Jenrick is losing far more votes in the so called middle ground than he can hope to gain on the far right, but is my thinking ten, or maybe even five, years out on that?
                  I'm sure that is true - as it is for the Tory party as a whole (even with Badenock refusing to mimic Reform, relying instead on old fashioned right wing Toryism), and as it is for the Labour Party who are chasing Reform but losing 4x as many votes to their left as they have to their right!

                  It feels as if the UK is catching up with much of continental Europe - seeing the traditional big parties of the centre left and the right implode (partly self-inflicted, partly due to pressure from outside) and new (often but not always) populist parties of the right and left replacing them - with some new centrist creation (like Macron's lot) emerging at the same time.

                  It is getting more volatile all the time.

                  Traditional Labour and Tory voters switching direct to Reform. Tories disappearing electorally and in membership across parts of their heartlands. Lib Dems and Greens hoovering up votes, seats and members from left and right. If the polls are correct the new Corbyn/Sultana party will attract significant numbers of Reform voters who formerly backed Labour.

                  The SNP and PC have got over their wobbles and will probably be major players in any future parliament. The slow move towards the nationalist and republican left in Northern Ireland could continue despite recent reactionary incidents (and there too the traditional so-called moderate nationalists and unionists have been supplanted).

                  The insurgent parties have joined the Lib Dems in arguing for PR. I wouldn't be surprised to see a coalition government under PR inside 10 years.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Jenrick

                    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                    Absolutely barking mad
                    That MRNA playing with your brain cell again!!! Imagine being called barking by a cuck who bent over like a school boy as instructed by Boris Johnson. Don't forget to wash you hands!!!!?.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Jenrick

                      Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                      That MRNA playing with your brain cell again!!! Imagine being called barking by a cuck who bent over like a school boy as instructed by Boris Johnson. Don't forget to wash you hands!!!!?.
                      Fair do's, cuck, like libtard and virtue signaller are so MAGA 2020. Move with the times. Nels!

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                      • #26
                        Re: Jenrick

                        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                        My mind was made up on this guy years ago and it was only confirmed when he ordered that those cartoons at a centre for children of illegal immigrants to be painted over, so I'm not posting this on here to slag him off for what he's doing in this llink, it's more to ask if you think stunts like this would give him a net boost politically?

                        https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/jenric...our-5Hjd9nw_2/
                        Forget Jenrick and Farage for a moment. Are you happy with migrants turning up in their droves and being housed in hotels all over the UK?

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                        • #27
                          Re: Jenrick

                          Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
                          Forget Jenrick and Farage for a moment. Are you happy with migrants turning up in their droves and being housed in hotels all over the UK?
                          The number of hotels being used has reduced from 400 to 200

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                          • #28
                            Re: Jenrick

                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            With respect, the mistake here is to label this "far- right" (a grossly overused description at the moment).

                            People protest about things all the time. Its perfectly reasonable to not want to see a local hotel turned into asylum accommodation without having any say on the matter and those concerns will be understandably sent into overdrive once a 14 year old girl is sexually assaulted.

                            I think people would be wise to realise what these protests are in order to draw the full conclusion from it. If you just think it's far-right protesters then it's not understanding the depth of feeling and motivation of those involved.
                            I’d say people to the right of Reform are far right, but I’ve not mentioned the hotel protests by name, my point in starting this thread was that I don’t get why Jenrick was pursuing the section of the electorate that he is - it seems to me that he’s likely to lose rather than gain support there.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Jenrick

                              Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
                              Forget Jenrick and Farage for a moment. Are you happy with migrants turning up in their droves and being housed in hotels all over the UK?
                              Nor particularly, but I’m a lot more concerned about the ever widening gap between rich and poor in this country.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Jenrick

                                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                                The number of hotels being used has reduced from 400 to 200
                                200 is 200 too many.
                                There are 900,000 young people out of work in the UK. There are hundreds of thousands of young working Brits who can’t afford to buy their own homes or rented accommodation.
                                Public services are being slashed, jails are getting over crowded, NHS is under pressure, not enough police on the streets, the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer,
                                Consecutive governments are borrowing billions of pounds.We are sending millions of pounds in foreign aid,
                                If ordinary people ran their homes and businesses like consecutive governments run the UK, they’d be homeless and penniless in weeks.
                                Why are we as a country, who can’t even look after our own residents properly, taking in migrants in their thousands, on a daily basis ?
                                Who is paying for their accommodation, food, clothes, health care etc ?

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