Zahawi joins Reform

[JamesWales]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

Chicken and egg. Reform lead in the polls because the dummies that inhabit these islands are force-fed their brainless rhetoric on a daily basis.

As for the latest Tory tosspot to have joined their ranks, I'd expect it to be big news if he was a sitting MP who had defected from one party to another, but this dreadful individual isn't an MP. He's a has-been.

If only everyone was an intelligent as you eh?!

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

If only everyone was an intelligent as you eh?!

Indeed.

[Dorcus]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

Chicken and egg. Reform lead in the polls because the dummies that inhabit these islands are force-fed their brainless rhetoric on a daily basis.

As for the latest Tory tosspot to have joined their ranks, I'd expect it to be big news if he was a sitting MP who had defected from one party to another, but this dreadful individual isn't an MP. He's a has-been.

He's doing it for the good of his adopted country; nothing to do with the Tories turning down Zahawi's peerage. If only everyone was endowed with his honesty and integrity.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

A man with no integrity should be perfect for Reform.

IÂ’m a little puzzled as to why an ex-MP joining a minority party is considered to be such big news. I guess it demonstrates what a stranglehold Reform have managed to gain over the British media.

Well if they didn't fill 10 pages with this they might have to report on things like:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/immigration-enforcement-raids-reach-highest-level-in-history

But then that would get in the way of creating the ideal platform for reform to be elected next time.

Its good that the government have found a way to increase immigration/illegal working enforcement without shooting mums in the head.

[goats]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

Nadhim Zahawi a few years ago tweeted, "I'm not British born Mr Nigel Farage, I'm as British as you are. Your comments are offensive and racist. I would be frightened to live in a country run by you". A man of principle then...

Sounds like the perfect politician
Why didn’t he join the party of liars?

[ninian opinian]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

I’ll leave this here!

https://x.com/heccles94/status/2010840253653807467?s=46&t=5XvNdsdmLTsVTx09ZSEfIA

[Heathblue]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

I’ll leave this here!

https://x.com/heccles94/status/20108...LTsVTx09ZSEfIA

Use X whilst you can N.O., your friends are desperate to ban it

[ninian opinian]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

Use X whilst you can N.O., your friends are desperate to ban it

I think you’ll find they’re trying to ban perverts making sexualised images of children. Agree with that do we??? I think I know the answer, the right are a dirty bunch.

[Dorcus]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

Sounds like the perfect politician
Why didn’t he join the party of liars?

He did join the party of liars! Didn't you see it in the news?

[delmbox]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

I think you’ll find they’re trying to ban perverts making sexualised images of children. Agree with that do we??? I think I know the answer, the right are a dirty bunch.

bit weird that some people are so anti potentially banning an app that is used to produce child porn but nothing surprises me anymore

[JamesWales]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

bit weird that some people are so anti potentially banning an app that is used to produce child porn but nothing surprises me anymore

It's a disgusting change as things stand. There's loads of it on X at the moment. You see a lot of influencers asking Grok to put them in bikinis (some is essentially porn) and you see people asking Grok (without consent) to put so and so in a bikini. I think whether AI should do the former is questionable but the latter is absolutely appalling. I am very sceptical of AI. On balance I think it will make life worse and this is an interesting test case. We absolutely have to have control over AI and social media platforms to prevents this.

I guess, playing devil's advocate, that an argument against is that it does happen on other platforms, yet people only talk about X for political reasons (and it's the biggest example).

Others might also say that newspapers and websites print candid real photos of people in bikinis anyway - is it worse to print fake ones?

I think it's also valid to not want to jump to talk of banning things, as that should be the last resort.

Finally I suppose there are some free speech absolutists who genuinely think its fair game to produce any image of any person you like, however sick.

I'm of the opinion it's a clear overreach and Grok (and other AI) needs to be programmed to not do those things. Inevitably that raises questions of what other less liberal countries will ask it not to do too, but so be it. That's a better problem to have than free reign on editing and publishing photos of people's bodies.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

I'm of the opinion it's a clear overreach and Grok (and other AI) needs to be programmed to not do those things. Inevitably that raises questions of what other less liberal countries will ask it not to do too, but so be it. That's a better problem to have than free reign on editing and publishing photos of people's bodies.

And to make matters worse a lot of people have chucked out their books and youngsters don't buy them, plus libraries are shutting down. It will be a very 1984-ish world if AI becomes the arbiter of truth.

[JamesWales]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

And to make matters worse a lot of people have chucked out their books and youngsters don't buy them, plus libraries are shutting down. It will be a very 1984-ish world if AI becomes the arbiter of truth.

Absolutely. I don't doubt it's benefits in some respects but I far more sceptical of it than the arrival of the internet for example

[goats]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

He did join the party of liars! Didn't you see it in the news?

The Tories were bad but my god this lot…raynor, reeves and the turncoat as leader….jeez, Everytime one of them is scrutinised they fall to bits like their policies and manifestos.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Zahawi joins Reform

The Tories were bad but my god this lot…raynor, reeves and the turncoat as leader….jeez, Everytime one of them is scrutinised they fall to bits like their policies and manifestos.

That's because the policies and manifestos are not their own. They are puppets, and bad ones at that.