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    If there's no revolution in Iran now there never will be

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    That is one way of looking at this latest massive breach of international law.

    But maybe the opposite will be the effect.

    When an American - or Israeli - missile massacres 85 people (mainly children) in a girls’ elementary school in Minab, the effect may be to turn the peoples anger against the ones firing the missiles, and deflect from anger against the regime.

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      Re: Iran's supreme leader reportedly dead

      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
      That is one way of looking at this latest massive breach of international law.

      But maybe the opposite will be the effect.

      When an American - or Israeli - missile massacres 85 people (mainly children) in a girls’ elementary school in Minab, the effect may be to turn the peoples anger against the ones firing the missiles, and deflect from anger against the regime.
      Maybe they should have left him alone so he could continue killing thousands of protesters every week?

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        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
        Maybe they should have left him alone so he could continue killing thousands of protesters every week?
        Big fan of illegal regime change are you?

        I don’t dispute that the Iranian regime is oppressive and murderous - but that should not excuse or legitimise the actions carried out by the USA and Israel - without domestic constitutional approval and in defiance of the UN and international law.

        Are you a Davos fan now? It is getting harder and harder to work out which fence you are sitting on whilst triangulating and watching developments.

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          Re: Iran's supreme leader reportedly dead

          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
          That is one way of looking at this latest massive breach of international law.

          But maybe the opposite will be the effect.

          When an American - or Israeli - missile massacres 85 people (mainly children) in a girls’ elementary school in Minab, the effect may be to turn the peoples anger against the ones firing the missiles, and deflect from anger against the regime.
          I didn't really express an opinion, was more a case that this is their big chance, if they take it, they may not get another.

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            Re: Iran's supreme leader reportedly dead

            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
            Big fan of illegal regime change are you?

            I don’t dispute that the Iranian regime is oppressive and murderous - but that should not excuse or legitimise the actions carried out by the USA and Israel - without domestic constitutional approval and in defiance of the UN and international law.

            Are you a Davos fan now? It is getting harder and harder to work out which fence you are sitting on whilst triangulating and watching developments.
            Just observing the damned if you do and damned if you don't nature of the decision making
            process.

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              Re: Iran's supreme leader reportedly dead

              Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
              That is one way of looking at this latest massive breach of international law.

              But maybe the opposite will be the effect.

              When an American - or Israeli - missile massacres 85 people (mainly children) in a girls’ elementary school in Minab, the effect may be to turn the peoples anger against the ones firing the missiles, and deflect from anger against the regime.
              Death toll at girls school hit by US or Israeli missile yesterday revised up to nearly 150 with many more injured! Another triumph for the Bored Of Peace!

              Strike on girls’ elementary school in south of Iran has killed 148 people and injured 95 others, according to Iran state media

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                Re: Iran's supreme leader reportedly dead

                Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                Death toll at girls school hit by US or Israeli missile yesterday revised up to nearly 150 with many more injured! Another triumph for the Bored Of Peace!

                https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...israel-strikes
                The new Gaza?

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                  Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                  Just observing the damned if you do and damned if you don't nature of the decision making
                  process.
                  That’s not necessarily the case with Iran though.

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                    Why are Iran bombing Dubai?

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                      Originally posted by goats View Post
                      Why are Iran bombing Dubai?
                      They thought it was Jew-bye and got excited?

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                        Re: Iran's supreme leader reportedly dead

                        Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                        Big fan of illegal regime change are you?

                        I don’t dispute that the Iranian regime is oppressive and murderous - but that should not excuse or legitimise the actions carried out by the USA and Israel - without domestic constitutional approval and in defiance of the UN and international law.

                        Are you a Davos fan now? It is getting harder and harder to work out which fence you are sitting on whilst triangulating and watching developments.
                        .

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                          Re: Iran's supreme leader reportedly dead

                          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                          They thought it was Jew-bye and got excited?
                          Seems odd though, what has Dubai done? Is it just because there’s an American airbase nearby? All that Arab money that’s gone into making that place what it is, not my cup of tea, but they won’t be happy….

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                            Re: Iran's supreme leader reportedly dead

                            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                            Death toll at girls school hit by US or Israeli missile yesterday revised up to nearly 150 with many more injured! Another triumph for the Bored Of Peace!

                            https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...israel-strikes
                            Ordinarilly, I take anything the US, Israeli or Iranian Governments say with a pinch of salt, but there seems to be something to this story and, in the world as it was for the first sixty years of my life it would see those responsible facing widespread condemnation from all sides. However, these are bizarre times where what I thought were the normal rules do not apply - killing a hundred and more schoolchildren as part of what is widely considered to be an illegal war should have Trump and Netanyahu firmly on the back foot in any world with morals and a sense of what is right and wrong, but I'm not sure it will in 2026.

                            Meanwhile, I see Starmer has caved under the first small sign of American pressure - wtf are "defensive strikes" by America in the context of this conflict?

                            The prime minister says it remains the case that the UK will "not join offensive action now".

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                              Re: Iran's supreme leader reportedly dead

                              Originally posted by goats View Post
                              Seems odd though, what has Dubai done? Is it just because there’s an American airbase nearby? All that Arab money that’s gone into making that place what it is, not my cup of tea, but they won’t be happy….
                              US and western interests presumably. I suspect the hotel wasn't the target, but who knows.

                              The Iranian regime is potentially coming to an end. It has a lot of enemies and I guess it's hitting out in all directions.

                              Killed upto 30,000 of its own people this year alone, it won't care about a few tourists in Dubai.

                              No idea where all this ends but I feel it's too far to go back to being the current Iranian regime now, personally.

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