Overtime and tax

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That'll just mean more 'efficiencies' across the civil service which will leave no-one to work their asylum returns.

you don't need to process asylum returns if you just block everyone.

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you don't need to process asylum returns if you just block everyone.

And there you have it.

[ninian opinian]

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Its Reform.

do you have any analysis to support your claim the real figure is closer to £14bn? Or are you just regurgitating what you have read without giving it a thought of your own?

It’s what actual experts have calculated. Do your own research on the subject. I don’t just make random stuff up like you.

Oh and the name Deform is very apt for them, don’t you agree?

[ninian opinian]

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And there you have it.

That always out themselves in the end.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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you don't need to process asylum returns if you just block everyone.

Rupert Lowe Fan Club ?

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It’s what actual experts have calculated. Do your own research on the subject. I don’t just make random stuff up like you.

Oh and the name Deform is very apt for them, don’t you agree?

Be careful they get touchy when you take the piss out of Nigel

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It’s what actual experts have calculated. Do your own research on the subject. I don’t just make random stuff up like you.

Oh and the name Deform is very apt for them, don’t you agree?

that old chestnut. the experts and do your own research. You repeated verbatim what Dan Deidle stated without fact checking and you pass it off as facts.

You may think Deform is apt, and it may well be. But its juvenile, crass and points to a lack of intelligence.

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That always out themselves in the end.

mine was said tongue in cheek, but I suspect there's probably a degree of truth. If what Sludge says is true about Rupert Lowe this could be a good thing (splitting the vote).

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mine was said tongue in cheek, but I suspect there's probably a degree of truth. If what Sludge says is true about Rupert Lowe this could be a good thing (splitting the vote).

I think that what the Big O doesn't get, and what is systematic with the off the cliff leftist commies on CCMB is that thinking that a policy might be a little radical but beneficial to John and Jane Dough but from a persona non grata is just simply not acceptable and an endorsement of the persona non grata, FWIW i think Farage would be Starmer on steroids if he was PM simply because its alleged that he has more funny money than Carlos Slim, and would simply have to acquiesce every time his deep state handler made the call!!

[Eric Cartman]

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I think that what the Big O doesn't get, and what is systematic with the off the cliff leftist commies on CCMB is that thinking that a policy might be a little radical but beneficial to John and Jane Dough but from a persona non grata is just simply not acceptable and an endorsement of the persona non grata, FWIW i think Farage would be Starmer on steroids if he was PM simply because its alleged that he has more funny money than Carlos Slim, and would simply have to acquiesce every time his deep state handler made the call!!

This thread is full of people saying why they think the policy is bad or won't work well. Retreating to the safe space of 'oh I see, you just hate Farage' is really not an option.

[Eric Cartman]

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that old chestnut. the experts and do your own research. You repeated verbatim what Dan Deidle stated without fact checking and you pass it off as facts.

You may think Deform is apt, and it may well be. But its juvenile, crass and points to a lack of intelligence.

I think the reform figure is probably based upon absolutely nobody deviating from the 'spirit of the law'. Anybody suggesting progressive policy on tax gets hammered with comments about their costing not taking into account behaviour change so that absolutely needs to happen with all similar policy announcements like this.

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This thread is full of people saying why they think the policy is bad or won't work well. Retreating to the safe space of 'oh I see, you just hate Farage' is really not an option.

oh come on you're not that naive. I said earlier in this thread that Reform could announce that everyone gets a puppy and the usual suspects would somehow find fault with it.

Pavlovs dogs, that's all it is.

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I think the reform figure is probably based upon absolutely nobody deviating from the 'spirit of the law'. Anybody suggesting progressive policy on tax gets hammered with comments about their costing not taking into account behaviour change so that absolutely needs to happen with all similar policy announcements like this.

I agree. That is why its so baffling that Reform announce a policy and within minutes we have so called experts suggesting everything is wrong or not fully costed, and we both know that no one has done any proper analysis of the Reform proposals, yet some lap it up as Gospel as it suits their narrative.

The truth is we don't know what the total cost would be...it could be £5bn, it could be more, it could be less. You'd need to be a special kind of bigoted loon to think anyone could prepare and comment fully on Reform's policy that quickly. Ergo no-one can fully determine whether it is a good policy based on cost, as some have tried to do.

[Eric Cartman]

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I agree. That is why its so baffling that Reform announce a policy and within minutes we have so called experts suggesting everything is wrong or not fully costed, and we both know that no one has done any proper analysis of the Reform proposals, yet some lap it up as Gospel as it suits their narrative.

The truth is we don't know what the total cost would be...it could be £5bn, it could be more, it could be less. You'd need to be a special kind of bigoted loon to think anyone could prepare and comment fully on Reform's policy that quickly. Ergo no-one can fully determine whether it is a good policy based on cost, as some have tried to do.

I'll just say again the 'so called expert' cited in this thread is Dan Neidle, who you were citing in the Raynor thread like his opinion was fact.

I don't think Dan is just plucking things out of the sky and he'd probably be the first to admit there is a large margin of error on this but I would take his opinion over any political parties effort to cost their own policies.

[Eric Cartman]

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oh come on you're not that naive. I said earlier in this thread that Reform could announce that everyone gets a puppy and the usual suspects would somehow find fault with it.

Pavlovs dogs, that's all it is.

Yeah there is probably some people like that around. Doesn't mean you can just use it as cover every time anybody disagrees with you.

I have now read the full article on tpa and, to me a layman, it's looks like a solid critique based around the idea that the economic case for doing it ahead of other things is very weak.