The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

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No, the polls aren’t by Politico.

Politico (and their pollsters) have just had all of their USAID funding cut and we are now in a propaganda war of attrition.

[the other bob wilson]

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Good grief, you’ve well and truly fallen off your fence haven’t you

[Wales-Bales]

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Good grief, you’ve well and truly fallen off your fence haven’t you

Still on the fence, just commenting on things that are happening!

[Heathblue]

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What do you think Trump would have to do to have his supporters start to have doubts in him?
Is there a limit?

His continued endorsement of the clot shots.

[stevo]

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I think he just needs to continue doing what he's doing. Everyone will come to realise eventually except for those mentally retarded.

[jon1959]

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Still on the fence, just commenting on things that are happening!

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[JamesWales]

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I think he just needs to continue doing what he's doing. Everyone will come to realise eventually except for those mentally retarded.

Why if it leads to an end to the war and peace?

[Heathblue]

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I think he just needs to continue doing what he's doing. Everyone will come to realise eventually except for those mentally retarded.

I would class that stevo as far left (the inability to accept other opinions) but not Radical left

[the other bob wilson]

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Why if it leads to an end to the war and peace?

Because the aggressor will have won - a negotiated settlement involving both sides is fine, but that’s not what we’re getting in this case.

[JamesWales]

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Because the aggressor will have won - a negotiated settlement involving both sides is fine, but that’s not what we’re getting in this case.

Aggressors do win a lot of the time unfortunately.

Long way to go on this really but I'm not sure Stevos analysis will prove to be correct tbh

[jeepster]

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The orange one has now said Zelensky is not very important in meetings.

[the other bob wilson]

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Aggressors do win a lot of the time unfortunately.

Long way to go on this really but I'm not sure Stevos analysis will prove to be correct tbh

Inn this case it will lead to a peace entirely on Putin's terms thanks to Trump the appeaser.

[JamesWales]

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Inn this case it will lead to a peace entirely on Putin's terms thanks to Trump the appeaser.

We just don't know that. We dont know the terms. I think the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine are the very least of what he wanted and certainly not everything he wanted. We also don't know what it means for prevention of any Russian incursion in the future.

But you are right. It is peace through appeasement but the alternative is war, potentially a war almost without end and a war that is devastating for Ukraine but also for Europe generally.

The only alternative is the total defeat of Russia, which seems staggeringly unlikely or the death of Putin which will obviously happen one day but we don't know who would replace him and either way that throw of the dice applies whether you seek peace or not

[JamesWales]

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The random number is a bit Wales Onliney, but this is an interesting list

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93np4y0343o

[Wales-Bales]

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Is this good or bad?