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  • Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    No way! I'd be apologising profusely, and reorganising my view of the world. It would be no fun finding out that you had been duped by a bird and windmill fanatic!

    You are equally guilty of ignoring the conspiracy to frame trump, so you are guilty of everything you say I am doing
    If it turns out that there was a conspiracy to frame Trump then I'll accept that outcome - until Mueller's investigation is finalised then I am not willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt since he's lied literally hundreds of times since he's taken office.

    I sincerely doubt that you'll be so forthcoming with your apologies if Trump is put in handcuffs

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      Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
      If it turns out that there was a conspiracy to frame Trump then I'll accept that outcome - until Mueller's investigation is finalised then I am not willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt since he's lied literally hundreds of times since he's taken office.

      I sincerely doubt that you'll be so forthcoming with your apologies if Trump is put in handcuffs
      In a way it would be a lot easier if Trump was guilty, as everybody has been conditioned by the media to expect it. On the other hand, finding out that the media was an integral part of the plot would be a kicker, so the stakes couldn't be any higher.

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      • Re: The Donald Trump thread

        Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
        If it turns out that there was a conspiracy to frame Trump then I'll accept that outcome - until Mueller's investigation is finalised then I am not willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt since he's lied literally hundreds of times since he's taken office.

        I sincerely doubt that you'll be so forthcoming with your apologies if Trump is put in handcuffs
        No proof will ever be enough for the fanatics. We've seen that with the indictments already done, no matter who it is there's a but but but excuse. And that's for people no one had heard of before, let alone trump.

        As for the investigation, don't expect anything bad to happen to trump even though it will show that serious crimes had taken place. The aim isn't to punish trump, just show what Russian interference had taken place. The only way trump can face the punishment he deserves is if the house of reps pursue it and right now there's no chance of it.

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        • Re: The Donald Trump thread

          Originally posted by lardy View Post
          No proof will ever be enough for the fanatics. We've seen that with the indictments already done, no matter who it is there's a but but but excuse. And that's for people no one had heard of before, let alone trump.
          It's the convictions that matter, not the indictments

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          • Re: The Donald Trump thread

            Lisa barsoomian is interesting

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            • Re: The Donald Trump thread

              Originally posted by Rogersblue View Post
              Lisa barsoomian is interesting
              They all are!

              Fair play, they've assembled a stellar cast to act this one out.

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              • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                Joining the dots, bales

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                • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                  Oh shit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45265546

                  'Trump 'directed' hush money says his ex-lawyer Michael Cohen'

                  US President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen has pleaded guilty in a Manhattan court to violating campaign finance laws.

                  He said he did so at the direction of "the candidate", for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election".

                  Mr Cohen's admission was related to hush money paid to Mr Trump's alleged mistresses.'

                  Let me guess.... "it's all a set up. Donald Trump's long-time personal lawyer is a part of the plan to get Trump out of the Presidency. It was set up a decade ago to get to this point for...some reason that will make sense to one or two people in this thread but will be laughed about by others. NO COLLUSION LARDY!!!"

                  Oh yeah, another Trump campaign member... sorry, campaign manager has been found guilty of 8 charges today too.

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                  • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                    Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                    Oh shit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45265546




                    Let me guess.... "it's all a set up. Donald Trump's long-time personal lawyer is a part of the plan to get Trump out of the Presidency. It was set up a decade ago to get to this point for...some reason that will make sense to one or two people in this thread but will be laughed about by others. NO COLLUSION LARDY!!!"

                    Oh yeah, another Trump campaign member... sorry, campaign manager has been found guilty of 8 charges today too.

                    Like I said before, I am prepared to dump the trump if he is guilty, but first could you please clarify which US law(s) he has broken stating the relevant clause number(s), the evidence supporting this claim of guilt, and details of any prevous offences. Thank you most kindly, together we can make the world a better place.

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                    • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                      Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                      Oh shit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45265546




                      Let me guess.... "it's all a set up. Donald Trump's long-time personal lawyer is a part of the plan to get Trump out of the Presidency. It was set up a decade ago to get to this point for...some reason that will make sense to one or two people in this thread but will be laughed about by others. NO COLLUSION LARDY!!!"

                      Oh yeah, another Trump campaign member... sorry, campaign manager has been found guilty of 8 charges today too.

                      To be fair, the swamp is being drained pretty quickly thanks to trump. Though it's only people he brought with him.

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                      • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                        I would say that things are not looking good for Trump.

                        Cohen — who pleaded guilty earlier on Tuesday to helping President Trump pay hush money to two women — wants to tell Mueller that Trump knew of an infamous 2016 meeting at Trump Tower and the Russian hacking of Democratic institutions before they took place, Lanny Davis told MSNBC.

                        “Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows,” Davis told the network.

                        “Not just about the obvious possibility of a conspiracy to collude and corrupt the American democracy system in the 2016 election, which the Trump Tower meeting was all about, but also knowledge about the computer crime of hacking and whether or not Mr. Trump knew ahead of time about that crime and even cheered it on.”

                        Michael Cohen is willing to speak with Special Counsel Robert Mueller about a “conspiracy to collude” with Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign, his lawyer said on Tuesday night…

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                        • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                          Not a good day for 45 fair play with his lawyer stating he did what he did under direction from DT.

                          Wonder what Cohen will tell in order to get a lesser sentence.

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                          • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                            Originally posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
                            Not a good day for 45 fair play with his lawyer stating he did what he did under direction from DT.

                            Wonder what Cohen will tell in order to get a lesser sentence.
                            It's the kids you have to feel sorry for. Little Gluey loves his red MAGA cap. Imagine his face when sees the news this morning. It's heartbreaking.

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                              It’s ironic that he spent all this time talking about draining the swamp when he’s had close connections with two convicted criminals.

                              The reason I don’t like him as I could see he’s a sleazy immoral character who’s full of shit, I’ve no doubt more will come out too.


                              He won’t be going anywhere though the Republicans won’t give him up.

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                              • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                                Originally posted by lardy View Post
                                It's the kids you have to feel sorry for. Little Gluey loves his red MAGA cap. Imagine his face when sees the news this morning. It's heartbreaking.
                                He's already had a wobble, asking me to "clarify which US law(s) he [Trump] has broken stating the relevant clause number(s), the evidence supporting this claim of guilt, and details of any prevous offences". Like I'm the ****ing prosecutor here.

                                Let's let Mueller do his thing now. In the words of Gluey "things are about to get very interesting in Trumpland"

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