Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Coronavirus update

Over 6,000 new cases, and the death rate passes 30,000.

The number of case are, at best, plateauing. It doesn't seem advisable to remove restrictions at the moment. In America, cases seem to be rising still. I suspect both Trump and Johnson will lift restrictions (Trump almost entirely, Johnson in stages), and I have no confidence that a second wave will be avoided. Let's wait and see what theys actually do.

The main concentration will be on the dropping testing figures I suspect, but unless today's new cases figure is a one off, that's a concern - we'll be getting that second wave if new cases stays at 6,000 for a week or so.

[xsnaggle]

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The main concentration will be on the dropping testing figures I suspect, but unless today's new cases figure is a one off, that's a concern - we'll be getting that second wave if new cases stays at 6,000 for a week or so.

the point of the increase in detected caes is that if there is more etsting you will find more people infected. But increase testing doesn't put more people in hospital, those sick enough to be hospitalised would be anyway, and those who die would have anyway.
The higher tsting may show a higher percebtage of the opulatin contaminated but by the same token showe that a smaller proportin of the people with it are actually dying.
It doesn't change the death figures but it does inform scientists regarding percentages contaminatec and not getting a serious dose, which may inform lockdown easing decisions

[trampie09]

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Are these the current figures for excess mortality that the government says will eventually be used to compare the impact more accurately across countries?

No idea Baloo.

[Pearcey3]

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The UK had 43,000 excess deaths for March and April. In other words 43,000 more deaths than would be expected for these months. Well above any other European country. This Government should be hammered for this especially the way Care Homes have been treated with complete disregard.

[the other bob wilson]

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the point of the increase in detected caes is that if there is more etsting you will find more people infected. But increase testing doesn't put more people in hospital, those sick enough to be hospitalised would be anyway, and those who die would have anyway.
The higher tsting may show a higher percebtage of the opulatin contaminated but by the same token showe that a smaller proportin of the people with it are actually dying.
It doesn't change the death figures but it does inform scientists regarding percentages contaminatec and not getting a serious dose, which may inform lockdown easing decisions

There were more people being tested last week and yet the figure has not dropped accordingly, in fact it's more than on some days when there were more tests - although I suppose the high figure might be down to many of those kits sent out on the last two days of last week being returned at the same time, hopefully that will be the case.

[xsnaggle]

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There were more people being tested last week and yet the figure has not dropped accordingly, in fact it's more than on some days when there were more tests - although I suppose the high figure might be down to many of those kits sent out on the last two days of last week being returned at the same time, hopefully that will be the case.

But I would think the numbers testing positive are of little concenr to the avewrage person as it does'nt affect the numbers in hosptal and dying directly except to remove some from being risk. That cannot be a bad thing

[tell it like it is]

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The UK had 43,000 excess deaths for March and April. In other words 43,000 more deaths than would be expected for these months. Well above any other European country. This Government should be hammered for this especially the way Care Homes have been treated with complete disregard.

Italy for one don't count care home deaths.

Care homes are also 84% privately owned yet you want direct government intervention? Most sensible people would castigate care home owners and managers for not ensuring PPE available...

[lisvaneblue]

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Thanks, I take it the z score you talk about relates to excess deaths? it's going off that subject, but I was surprised, and a little alarmed, to learn that the number of deaths in RCT is higher than in Cardiff and the Vale apparently, yet I hear it said so often that the virus has not really found it's way to the valleys. It's true that there are, apparently, not many cases around here at the top of the Rhondda valley (and the majority of the ones I'm aware of were picked up in hospital), but, self evidently, that's not true elsewhere in the county.

The ONS website has an interactive map showing deaths by postcode. In my area in Lisvane 4 people have died, in Treherbert 8 people

[lisvaneblue]

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The main concentration will be on the dropping testing figures I suspect, but unless today's new cases figure is a one off, that's a concern - we'll be getting that second wave if new cases stays at 6,000 for a week or so.

The worldometers has a 7 day average chart for UK and new cases have remained fairly steady on the chart since middle of April. We may not be into a second wave, but we are certainly not out of the woods yet.

[tell it like it is]

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The ONS website has an interactive map showing deaths by postcode. In my area in Lisvane 4 people have died, in Treherbert 8 people

Have you a link to it? Might be my tired eyes but struggling to find it.

[CCFCC3PO]

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The main concentration will be on the dropping testing figures I suspect, but unless today's new cases figure is a one off, that's a concern - we'll be getting that second wave if new cases stays at 6,000 for a week or so.

I wouldn't even call it a second wave if cases rise. The first, and current, wave has not died away.

[lisvaneblue]

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Have you a link to it? Might be my tired eyes but struggling to find it.

Google : coronavirus interactive map, and you should get some links to it, also BBC News has link to it

[tell it like it is]

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Google : coronavirus interactive map, and you should get some links to it, also BBC News has link to it

ta

[Rjk]

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https://twitter.com/davidmcswane/status/1258035535936921601?s=19

Utter shambles. In America this time.

[lardy]

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I wouldn't even call it a second wave if cases rise. The first, and current, wave has not died away.

Yeah I think second wave refers to something later in the year, after cases have really dropped for some time. It hasn't gone away yet so this is all part of the first.