Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[tell it like it is]

Re: Coronavirus update

Problems with a tracker app for me are as follows :-

1) I keep location turned off phone, suspect many do.
2) Some won't install it because ZOMFG EVIL GOVERNMENT TRACKING ME. Look at how widely distributed bs 5G rumours have gone.
3) If it involves people self-reporting symptoms, then that's not always accurate.

The app would be better than nothing, sure but not a panacea.

[trampie09]

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Problems with a tracker app for me are as follows :-

1) I keep location turned off phone, suspect many do.
2) Some won't install it because ZOMFG EVIL GOVERNMENT TRACKING ME. Look at how widely distributed bs 5G rumours have gone.
3) If it involves people self-reporting symptoms, then that's not always accurate.

The app would be better than nothing, sure but not a panacea.

Out of interest why do you have the location turned off on phone ?

[tell it like it is]

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Out of interest why do you have the location turned off on phone ?

Simply because apps I have on the phone have no real reason to geolocate.

In the case of a tracker app like this, I've no argument against it because that's an important function of the app.

It's like any software - apps need to have the minimum amount of rights to be able to provide functionality. Sending details an location to ad providers, third party companies etc for me have very little to do with apps I use.

[trampie09]

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Simply because apps I have on the phone have no real reason to geolocate.

In the case of a tracker app like this, I've no argument against it because that's an important function of the app.

It's like any software - apps need to have the minimum amount of rights to be able to provide functionality. Sending details an location to ad providers, third party companies etc for me have very little to do with apps I use.

That is not code for being a criminal or a spy then ?

[tell it like it is]

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That is not code for being a criminal or a spy then ?

Yes, Trampie, I spy on Welsh nats...

[trampie09]

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Yes, Trampie, I spy on Welsh nats...

Who do you spy for ?

[tell it like it is]

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Who do you spy for ?

I'd tell you but I'd have to kill you.

[trampie09]

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I'd tell you but I'd have to kill you.

Intriguing.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Coronavirus update

Problems with a tracker app for me are as follows :-

1) I keep location turned off phone, suspect many do.
2) Some won't install it because ZOMFG EVIL GOVERNMENT TRACKING ME. Look at how widely distributed bs 5G rumours have gone.
3) If it involves people self-reporting symptoms, then that's not always accurate.

The app would be better than nothing, sure but not a panacea.

Drawing a comparison between someone attacking 5g masts because they heard it causes covid-19 and someone not installing an app because they don't think the government should store data on their 24/7 movements is dumb.

[tell it like it is]

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Drawing a comparison between someone attacking 5g masts because they heard it causes covid-19 and someone not installing an app because they don't think the government should store data on their 24/7 movements is dumb.

Not really.

Those not wanting the app because MUH THEY STALKING ME, SELLING MY LOCATION AND DETAILS are akin to those believing the 5G shit willing to believe any shit conspiracy.

The aim of the tracking app is specifically to track those with symptoms. It needs the location otherwise the app has no use whatsoever.

[Eric Cartman]

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Not really.

Those not wanting the app because MUH THEY STALKING ME, SELLING MY LOCATION AND DETAILS are akin to those believing the 5G shit willing to believe any shit conspiracy.

The aim of the tracking app is specifically to track those with symptoms. It needs the location otherwise the app has no use whatsoever.

What do you mean by 'it needs the location'? The debate is around centralisation or decentralisation of the information collected.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uB4LcQHMVP-oLzIIHA9SjKj1uMd3erGu/view

'Everyone who disagrees with my uninformed view is a conspiracy theorist' isn't going to get you very far.

[tell it like it is]

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What do you mean by 'it needs the location'? The debate is around centralisation or decentralisation of the information collected.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uB4LcQHMVP-oLzIIHA9SjKj1uMd3erGu/view

'Everyone who disagrees with my uninformed view is a conspiracy theorist' isn't going to get you very far.

Without centralisation, you end up with disparate data sets. Ok, say one region has contact tracing for South Wales - what happens as people move across boundaries?

I'm saying those who believe the 5G shit, believe the app data will be used by EVVVVIIILLLL government forces tend to be conspiracy theorists.

Still, we've got your informed view to rely on.

[trampie09]

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Without centralisation, you end up with disparate data sets. Ok, say one region has contact tracing for South Wales - what happens as people move across boundaries?

I'm saying those who believe the 5G shit, believe the app data will be used by EVVVVIIILLLL government forces tend to be conspiracy theorists.

Still, we've got your informed view to rely on.

So you will be taking the same action as conspiracy theorists ?

[Eric Cartman]

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Without centralisation, you end up with disparate data sets. Ok, say one region has contact tracing for South Wales - what happens as people move across boundaries?

I'm saying those who believe the 5G shit, believe the app data will be used by EVVVVIIILLLL government forces tend to be conspiracy theorists.

Still, we've got your informed view to rely on.

You think that a proposed decentralised solution to this problem involves each region holding the data for the people who live there?

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-patients-cant-relapse-south-korean-scientists-believe-rkm8zm7d9

Good news, very good in fact