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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by goats View Post
    Crikey....

    Coronavirus: Wales' 19 field hospitals cost £166m to build https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52752976

    No mention of this on here....35 patients.
    Golden Labour moments ,20 years and counting ,hope Sir Keir has Drakesford mobile number on speed dial

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    • Re: Coronavirus update

      Originally posted by life on mars View Post
      Golden Labour moments ,20 years and counting ,hope Sir Keir has Drakesford mobile number on speed dial
      I thought you were impressed by the field hospitals across the UK?

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
        I thought you were impressed by the field hospitals across the UK?
        was impressed by the effort not impressed by Mr Drakeford in any shape or form

        The older people's commissioner calls for an investigation into the Welsh Government's speed of testing in care homes.


        Are you >??????????????

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Originally posted by life on mars View Post
          was impressed by the effort not impressed by Mr Drakeford in any shape or form

          The older people's commissioner calls for an investigation into the Welsh Government's speed of testing in care homes.


          Are you >??????????????
          I think the whole of the UK has made a complete cockup of this. I live in ingerland so haven't followed Wales to any great degree. You have changed your tune though, it was all about celebrating the positives when we were talking about the UK gov a few weeks back but not seemingly when it is about the Welsh government. Are their failings any greater in your opinion?

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
            I thought you were impressed by the field hospitals across the UK?
            Only in England apparently, different party in Government you see.

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              Sounds encouraging;-

              Better understanding of Covid-19's impact on the immune system gives hope an existing drug might aid recovery.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                I missed the first two Thursday night NHS celebrations (I wasn't aware of it for the first and nodded off in front of the telly for the second!) and have joined in with them all since then, but I can understand where this doctor is coming from;-

                The health service is not a charity and it is not staffed by heroes. It has been run into the ground by successive governments

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                  I missed the first two Thursday night NHS celebrations (I wasn't aware of it for the first and nodded off in front of the telly for the second!) and have joined in with them all since then, but I can understand where this doctor is coming from;-

                  https://www.theguardian.com/society/...eople-clapping
                  I have made a point of not doing it for various reasons. I am sure some NHS workers enjoy it and some cringe at the thought of it.

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                    I thought you were impressed by the field hospitals across the UK?
                    I think they had to be done but as they could be something we require in the future, surely they should have tried to build them somewhere sustainable? Clearly keeping any future virus patients away from mainstream hospitals is vital. The MS, bluestone for some obscure reason, scarlets ground etc....all got to be taken down again.

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Wouldn’t that just be a hospital then? A field hospital is just a temporary hospital isn’t it? They were always there for the peak and removed once they weren’t being used.

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                        I missed the first two Thursday night NHS celebrations (I wasn't aware of it for the first and nodded off in front of the telly for the second!) and have joined in with them all since then, but I can understand where this doctor is coming from;-

                        https://www.theguardian.com/society/...eople-clapping
                        I have joined in the Thursday clapping from the start, and last night it was at the same level as 6 weeks ago. I understand the case made by some that it is a sentimental distraction from the real issues in the NHS, and sometimes carried out by people who voted for parties that undermined the health and care services. But I feel that the genuine shared community support for those people and services that have led the fight against Covid 19 is valuable - and I think the clapping has held the government's feet to the fire on all the issues raised in the opinion piece, more than deflected attention.

                        I'm not sure how or when the clapping will stop. It will fizzle out at some point. But I have a (maybe naive) hope that the country will be a different place when the pandemic has passed - clearly worse economically and with tens of thousands of dead, but also with a clearer focus on mutual support and what is important in life. In our area there are community action groups formed that will not go away when Covid goes, and friendships formed that wouldn't have happened in the 'old normal'.

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                          I have joined in the Thursday clapping from the start, and last night it was at the same level as 6 weeks ago. I understand the case made by some that it is a sentimental distraction from the real issues in the NHS, and sometimes carried out by people who voted for parties that undermined the health and care services. But I feel that the genuine shared community support for those people and services that have led the fight against Covid 19 is valuable - and I think the clapping has held the government's feet to the fire on all the issues raised in the opinion piece, more than deflected attention.

                          I'm not sure how or when the clapping will stop. It will fizzle out at some point. But I have a (maybe naive) hope that the country will be a different place when the pandemic has passed - clearly worse economically and with tens of thousands of dead, but also with a clearer focus on mutual support and what is important in life. In our area there are community action groups formed that will not go away when Covid goes, and friendships formed that wouldn't have happened in the 'old normal'.
                          Anyone who know me would know I'm a big proponent of the NHS. I've worked with the NHS, raised money for it messaged MPs to try to encourage support of it and try to minimize the influence of companies seeking to bleed it .
                          I have many friends who work for the NHS across various levels.

                          I haven't attended the weekly saucepan banging once.

                          I don't see anything wrong with people wanting to express their support in that way, but it isn't for me.

                          It just feels like a distraction from the real issues to me - I know that isn't how other people see it and I have no doubt it started with good intentions.

                          I had similarly unpopular views about the help for heroes charity which was ubiquitous a few years ago.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by goats View Post
                            I think they had to be done but as they could be something we require in the future, surely they should have tried to build them somewhere sustainable? Clearly keeping any future virus patients away from mainstream hospitals is vital. The MS, bluestone for some obscure reason, scarlets ground etc....all got to be taken down again.
                            You know that they're field hospitals, right? They are temporary by definition.

                            The Tories are going to be building lots of new hospitals though, they've promised us. So don't you worry about it, sweetheart.

                            It's not six completely new hospitals - some involve redeveloping existing buildings and sites.

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                              I think the whole of the UK has made a complete cockup of this. I live in ingerland so haven't followed Wales to any great degree. You have changed your tune though, it was all about celebrating the positives when we were talking about the UK gov a few weeks back but not seemingly when it is about the Welsh government. Are their failings any greater in your opinion?
                              He won't criticise the tories for some reason, utterly bizzare.

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                              • Re: Coronavirus update

                                Following on from that Doctor's opinion of the Thursday night NHS tributes;-

                                The nationwide applause has "had its moment" and should end after 10 weeks, Annemarie Plas says.

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