Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

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Johnnson 'waffle waffle waffle the most important thing is to wash your hands'

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Johnson, "the R has not risen above one " - interesting choice of words, would I be right to add but it has gone up to that I wonder?

He must be using the info from last Friday because they only get the update on a Friday.
more to the point it lags 2 -3 weeks behind so it doesn't apply to since they relaxed things anyway. The new one of Friday might, just!!

[goats]

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Retail to open in England on June 15....the bridge is going to be busy going east for some essentials, no doubt it will be a few more months before wales wakes up, if it ever does

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They are daily on Monday to Friday.

Can't recall seeing them at the weekend

Yes Daily, but not today. Mr Drakeford must have been busy on his allotment.

[CCFCC3PO]

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Johnson, "the R has not risen above one " - interesting choice of words, would I be right to add but it has gone up to that I wonder?

In my opinion, a national R rate is not a great method of recording what is happening. It needs to be at a more regional level.

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In my opinion, a national R rate is not a great method of recording what is happening. It needs to be at a more regional level.

But it is only one of the measures used to decide policy, albeit an important one (Allegedly).

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What ever stupid things the swedes may or may not have done in this pandemic you just have to love their panache.
This from their pandemic advice: "Sex is no obstacle if you and your partner, or partners, show no symptoms of illness".

[lisvaneblue]

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Yes Daily, but not today. Mr Drakeford must have been busy on his allotment.

Scathing article in yesterday's Daily Telegraph about how Drakeford and co let down the people of RCT. They say that early on he identified the Rhondda as a risk area because of high elderly population, high industrial disease, and deprivation, but then did nothing about it. Falling on testing, track and trace etc

Overall South Wales has some of the worse death rates and total cases in the UK, about double per capita than England

[Tuerto]

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Scathing article in yesterday's Daily Telegraph about how Drakeford and co let down the people of RCT. They say that early on he identified the Rhondda as a risk area because of high elderly population, high industrial disease, and deprivation, but then did nothing about it. Falling on testing, track and trace etc

Overall South Wales has some of the worse death rates and total cases in the UK, about double per capita than England

I've no reason to doubt the DT claim, or the if there are failings that have contributed towards the suffering of the people in RCT, and if it is so, i'll be bringing it up at my next Labour Party regional meeting, that's what i do, call people out, even if it hurts politically, it's the only way progress is made and things improve as it isn't and shouldn't be about my political biases.

Now over to you, A Tory who lives in one of Wales' most affluent areas, who defends Boris and Cummins, giving a shit about the people of RCT. 40 years to late Comrade. People have been suffering in those areas, young and old, since the Tories waged a war on a once proud community. A Tory showing concern for some of the most deprived people in the UK. You've got some cheek.

[lisvaneblue]

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I've no reason to doubt the DT claim, or the if there are failings that have contributed towards the suffering of the people in RCT, and if it is so, i'll be bringing it up at my next Labour Party regional meeting, that's what i do, call people out, even if it hurts politically, it's the only way progress is made and things improve as it isn't and shouldn't be about my political biases.

Now over to you, A Tory who lives in one of Wales' most affluent areas, who defends Boris and Cummins, giving a shit about the people of RCT. 40 years to late Comrade. People have been suffering in those areas, young and old, since the Tories waged a war on a once

proud community. A Tory showing concern for some of the most deprived people in the UK. You've got some cheek.

So have you as you know f all about me. Born Cardiff, raised on a council estate, made some money playing music in teens. Dad a fitter who had TB for years and we lived on the breadline. Only Christmas present I had one year was from the local Conservative Club. Pulled myself together after an ordinary education and made something of my life.

My wife's from Ton Pentre, dyed in the wool valley's girl and very proud of her history. I worked for many years as a rep in the Valley's areas, made many friends and have fond memories.

As for politics, Starmer would get my vote if there was an election tomorrow, but Drakeford wouldn't.

And I hope you do raise the Rhondda issue at your next Labour meeting because its cost lives

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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What ever stupid things the swedes may or may not have done in this pandemic you just have to love their panache.
This from their pandemic advice: "Sex is no obstacle if you and your partner, or partners, show no symptoms of illness".

I lost a lot of respect for a friend of mine when she told me on Sunday that her daughter visits her boyfriend for sex. He shares a house with other tenants and she (the daughter) shares a home with her mother (who is the friend I mentioned) and a lodger who is a a key worker as he is employed in the food industry (and where some of his colleagues have already contracted a virus). My friend was a lifelong teacher until she moved into the area of psychology.

[jon1959]

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This is damning:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/25/cummings-row-risks-breach-of-public-trust-says-psychology-expert

Robert West, a professor of health psychology at University College London’s Institute of Epidemiology and Health, who sits on the advisory group on behavioural science for Sage told the Guardian: “From a public health perspective what we now have to recognise is that central government probably cannot be trusted to provide leadership, and other agencies, including local and regional government, are going to have to work together to make up for this. It will be difficult and maybe things will change but as things stand there is a leadership vacuum in the heart of government.”

In reference to Cummings’ account of why he drove hundreds of miles to Durham during lockdown, West said: “There are so many holes in his narrative that only the most desperate people who want to believe him could do so. Not least is the idea that someone who is not an idiot would drive for 30 miles (coincidentally to a tourist attraction) with his wife and child in the car to check that he was safe to drive.”

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“They are treating the whole health crisis as though it were a political crisis. If it’s a political crisis, what you do is try to manage your reputation. If it’s a health crisis you focus on saving lives, at whatever cost to your political reputation.”

He said 40 people were involved in Spi-B, the Independent Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviours, which feeds in to Sage, the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.

“I know [concern] is widespread among the group but not everybody feels comfortable speaking out and I completely understand that. But there has been considerable and growing unease,” West said. “The worry is that the government has said from the beginning it is following the science, and that was never true.”

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So have you as you know f all about me. Born Cardiff, raised on a council estate, made some money playing music in teens. Dad a fitter who had TB for years and we lived on the breadline. Only Christmas present I had one year was from the local Conservative Club. Pulled myself together after an ordinary education and made something of my life.

My wife's from Ton Pentre, dyed in the wool valley's girl and very proud of her history. I worked for many years as a rep in the Valley's areas, made many friends and have fond memories.

As for politics, Starmer would get my vote if there was an election tomorrow, but Drakeford wouldn't.

And I hope you do raise the Rhondda issue at your next Labour meeting because its cost lives

I wouldn’t worry too much, millions of people who have never voted Tory in their lifetimes voted for them a few months ago such was the fear of what corbyn might do, seats up north that had never been anything but red. That tells you a lot. I believe you are allowed to make money and do well in life, you can even go to ‘fancy‘ butchers then.....

[Baloo]

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Government minister resigns.

I haven't commented publicly on the situation with Dominic Cummings as I have waited to hear the full details. I welcome the statement to clarify matters, but there remains aspects of the explanation which I have trouble with. As a result I have resigned as a government Minister. pic.twitter.com/6yXLyMzItJ

— Douglas Ross MP (@Douglas4Moray) May 26, 2020

[the other bob wilson]

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I see the USA is set to pass the 100,000 deaths mark in the next day or two (currently at 99,900 plus on Worldometer) - although it is just another number in many ways, I bet it is one that their Government was praying would not be reached.