Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[splott parker]

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https://appeasement.org/

There is the opinion that Chamberlain’s actions very cleverly bought Britain a little bit of time to prepare a little bit for war instead of jumping in feet first totally unprepared. If Johnson jumped in anywhere feet first he’d probably land on his head.

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There is the opinion that Chamberlain’s actions very cleverly bought Britain a little bit of time to prepare a little bit for war instead of jumping in feet first totally unprepared. If Johnson jumped in anywhere feet first he’d probably land on his head.

Yeah it bought them lots of time, 1 year and34 days to be precise.

In 1940 he was still one of the war cabinet pushing for peace talks via Mussolini.

[CCFCC3PO]

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Yeah it bought them lots of time, 1 year and34 days to be precise.

In 1940 he was still one of the war cabinet pushing for peace talks via Mussolini.

At the time that he came back with "a piece of paper", it was widely celebrated in the UK. PMs don't have the vision of hindsight. Johnson possesses neither hindsight nor foresight.

[Croesy Blue]

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How anyone can read that times article bob posted and not think the government completely ****ed everything is beyond me.

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At the time that he came back with "a piece of paper", it was widely celebrated in the UK. PMs don't have the vision of hindsight. Johnson possesses neither hindsight nor foresight.

Actually it wasn't there werre widespread demonstrations about it at the time but the news was suppressed by "Chamberlains mauipulation of the BBC". nothing changes much does it?

[Rjk]

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Yeah it bought them lots of time, 1 year and34 days to be precise.

In 1940 he was still one of the war cabinet pushing for peace talks via Mussolini.

some military historians think that time was absolutely crucial to the UK. after he came back with his piece of paper he also immediately stepped up preparations in the army. had we ended up in war at that earlier time we would have fared a lot worse.
unfortunately that gets lost as the narrative for how the war played out was set by the guy who came afterwards, to paint him in the best possible way.

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Just to add a little bit of substance to me last post about Chamberlain:

"Chamberlain's return was not universally well-received. 15,000 people protested against the Munich agreement the same day in Trafalgar Square, three times more than welcomed him at 10 Downing Street. Due to Chamberlain's ongoing manipulation of the BBC, this news was largely suppressed at the time.[5] Labour spokesman Hugh Dalton publicly suggested that the piece of paper which Chamberlain was waving was "torn from the pages of Mein Kampf."[6] Disbelieving Chamberlain, Isaac Asimov published in July 1939 "Trends", which mentions a World War in 1940. He later wrote "I was too conservative" (about when war would begin).[7]"

[splott parker]

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Yeah it bought them lots of time, 1 year and34 days to be precise.

In 1940 he was still one of the war cabinet pushing for peace talks via Mussolini.

As I said, a little bit of time, Chamberlain’s insistence in the late 1930s to manufacture Spitfires & Hurricanes, fighter planes rather than the type Churchill was championing was a major factor in winning the Battle of Britain.

[the other bob wilson]

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This has just appeared on the Guardian's rolling coverage;-

"Vaccine will be ready by September, drug maker chief claims
British people will be able to access a coronavirus vaccine from September, the chief executive of drug maker AstraZeneca has said, despite concerns it will not be ready.

Pascal Soriot told The Andrew Marr Show on Sunday that British people will get first access to the vaccine from autumn.

The pharmaceutical firm, which is working with Oxford University, had previously said it has secured the first agreements for at least 400 million doses of the vaccine, PA reports.

But a leading member of the project told The Sunday Telegraph the lower transmission of Covid-19 in the community leaves the trial with only a 50% chance of success.

Asked if people in Britain will be among the first to get the vaccine, Soriot said: “Yes, we have actually received an order from the British Government to supply 100 million doses of vaccine, and those will go to the British people.

“And there’s no doubt, starting in September, we will start delivering these doses of vaccine to the British Government for vaccination.”

But Soriot went on to say the possibility of the vaccine being rolled out in autumn depended on if an Oxford University trial worked before the transmission rate lowers further.

He added: “The vaccine has to work and that’s one question, and the other question is, even if it works, we have to be able to demonstrate it.

“We have to run as fast as possible before the disease disappears so we can demonstrate that the vaccine is effective.”

Oxford University’s Jenner Institute and the Oxford Vaccine Group began development on a vaccine in January, using a virus taken from chimpanzees."

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This has just appeared on the Guardian's rolling coverage;-

"Vaccine will be ready by September, drug maker chief claims
British people will be able to access a coronavirus vaccine from September, the chief executive of drug maker AstraZeneca has said, despite concerns it will not be ready.

Pascal Soriot told The Andrew Marr Show on Sunday that British people will get first access to the vaccine from autumn.

The pharmaceutical firm, which is working with Oxford University, had previously said it has secured the first agreements for at least 400 million doses of the vaccine, PA reports.

But a leading member of the project told The Sunday Telegraph the lower transmission of Covid-19 in the community leaves the trial with only a 50% chance of success.

Asked if people in Britain will be among the first to get the vaccine, Soriot said: “Yes, we have actually received an order from the British Government to supply 100 million doses of vaccine, and those will go to the British people.

“And there’s no doubt, starting in September, we will start delivering these doses of vaccine to the British Government for vaccination.”

But Soriot went on to say the possibility of the vaccine being rolled out in autumn depended on if an Oxford University trial worked before the transmission rate lowers further.

He added: “The vaccine has to work and that’s one question, and the other question is, even if it works, we have to be able to demonstrate it.

“We have to run as fast as possible before the disease disappears so we can demonstrate that the vaccine is effective.”

Oxford University’s Jenner Institute and the Oxford Vaccine Group began development on a vaccine in January, using a virus taken from chimpanzees."

fingers toes legs arms and everything else crossed!!

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fingers toes legs arms and everything else crossed!!

You do realise that what he is basically saying is it COULD be ready based on trials. I know you sometimes struggle with that word, and other times you don't.

[CCFCC3PO]

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Actually it wasn't there werre widespread demonstrations about it at the time but the news was suppressed by "Chamberlains mauipulation of the BBC". nothing changes much does it?

I've never heard about that - do you have a link so that I can read more about it?

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You do realise that what he is basically saying is it COULD be ready based on trials. I know you sometimes struggle with that word, and other times you don't.

I know exactly what it said. If it was certain there would be no need for the hypothetical crossed fingers would there?
I don't struggle with words, I struggle with dick heads like you. I told you before you're a waste

[CCFCC3PO]

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I know exactly what it said. If it was certain there would be no need for the hypothetical crossed fingers would there?
I don't struggle with words, I struggle with dick heads like you. I told you before you're a waste

There is no reason to be so upset.

Anyway, I am interested in these widespread protests. If you can send a link, I can have a read about it and leave you to calm down for a few minutes.

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There is no reason to be so upset.

Anyway, I am interested in these widespread protests. If you can send a link, I can have a read about it and leave you to calm down for a few minutes.

I'm not upset, don't give yourself the ability to upset me, nothing could be further from the treth, I find your self professed super intelligence quite amusing.
the link I quoted was wikipedia "Peace in our time". you can google it.