Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Can you really see millions of people locking themselves away for twelve weeks at any time? Judging by what France are doing, I think it's not just the elderly and the vulnerable that will be expected to do it soon - people will start off with good intentions, but will soon start rebelling and risking whatever punishment they'll be threatened with.

I honestly don't think our Govt. - or any govt. for that matter - seriously expects the 12/14 weeks quarantine to be maintained. My hunch is they're hoping for something like 2 weeks before everyone starts 'breaking out'. Much better than telling people it's going to be 2 weeks and then seeing people on the streets after 2/3 days.

If I'm wrong and the timescales are accurate, there won't be anything left to return to - jobs, business, economy, nothing..

[Toadstool]

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laura ashley stores gone... 150 stores 2.500 staff...

whos next

Car Phone Warehouse....Gone

[bluemoon]

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Car Phone Warehouse....Gone

watching sky news last few hours...

trump on tv lashing out trillions of dollars to prop up business... sounds like everyone is going to recieve around $1000 like the normal joe on the street so to speak...

clear this is more than some bs virus... they springing money out of nowhere that must be hoarded in federal reserve for the end of the world type thing..

watching our lot... we were talking about doctors in london for example pleading with goverment to send ppe as they are having to make up paper towel masks as supplies are running out.. asked when supplies will arrive they could not even answer!!!

everyone moans about trump... id be on the next bloody plane out of here if the option was on the table... we are a global shambles

[Rjk]

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watching sky news last few hours...

trump on tv lashing out trillions of dollars to prop up business... sounds like everyone is going to recieve around $1000 like the normal joe on the street so to speak...

clear this is more than some bs virus... they springing money out of nowhere that must be hoarded in federal reserve for the end of the world type thing..

watching our lot... we were talking about doctors in london for example pleading with goverment to send ppe as they are having to make up paper towel masks as supplies are running out.. asked when supplies will arrive they could not even answer!!!

everyone moans about trump... id be on the next bloody plane out of here if the option was on the table... we are a global shambles

It's just a financial stimulus. It can be more effective than just giving to the banks.
Hong Kong did something very similar recently

[surge]

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Has anyone read the Imperial College study? It can be found here: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...16-03-2020.pdf

The major challenge of suppression is that this type of intensive intervention package – or something equivalently effective at reducing transmission – will need to be maintained until a vaccine becomes available (potentially 18 months or more) – given that we predict that transmission will quickly rebound if interventions are relaxed.

There are hundreds of thousands of very worried people who can't financially support themselves for any real length of time (see majority of the self-employed, lower wages, or single parent families) and we've just had 10 years of cuts to services that are now going to be relied on.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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Has anyone read the Imperial College study? It can be found here: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...16-03-2020.pdf



There are hundreds of thousands of very worried people who can't financially support themselves for any real length of time (see majority of the self-employed, lower wages, or single parent families) and we've just had 10 years of cuts to services that are now going to be relied on.

I don't think you have to fall into those categories to be worried. People earning a good wage atm can lose their jobs at any moment and 18 months would be tough.

[CCFCC3PO]

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watching sky news last few hours...

trump on tv lashing out trillions of dollars to prop up business... sounds like everyone is going to recieve around $1000 like the normal joe on the street so to speak...

clear this is more than some bs virus... they springing money out of nowhere that must be hoarded in federal reserve for the end of the world type thing..

watching our lot... we were talking about doctors in london for example pleading with goverment to send ppe as they are having to make up paper towel masks as supplies are running out.. asked when supplies will arrive they could not even answer!!!

everyone moans about trump... id be on the next bloody plane out of here if the option was on the table... we are a global shambles

It really isn't more than a virus. Election year. If the recovery rates were very low then I would agree, but basically we are now in war time conditions.

[CCFCC3PO]

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I honestly don't think our Govt. - or any govt. for that matter - seriously expects the 12/14 weeks quarantine to be maintained. My hunch is they're hoping for something like 2 weeks before everyone starts 'breaking out'. Much better than telling people it's going to be 2 weeks and then seeing people on the streets after 2/3 days.

If I'm wrong and the timescales are accurate, there won't be anything left to return to - jobs, business, economy, nothing..

Quarantine cannot last more than 2 weeks. We have 2 Bank holidays in April, and another 2 in May. They can combine all 4 into one week - maybe add in the August Bank Holiday too. Five days. They could then force people to take a week annual leave, and enforce a quarantine. Enough time for people to sit at home, show symptoms, recover or show no symptoms at all. Theoretically, and with borders closed, that should be the end of cases developed in the country. The next issue then is who to re-open borders to. I'd say only to countries that have had no reported cases for 14 days.

Isolation is the main weapon, I think. Like you say, if it is more than that - even with home working, many people will be out of work.

[CCFCC3PO]

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Car Phone Warehouse....Gone

Not due to coronavirus though.

[xsnaggle]

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Not due to coronavirus though.

Exactly. The company said it was because of a change in the way people get their phones.

[the other bob wilson]

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I share some of the misgivings about figures from China, especially the early ones, but stories like this have to be encouraging, particularly if the number of new cases in recent weeks in regions that have relaxed the isolation policy are accurate.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/china-life-returning-normal-coronavirus-outbreak-slows-200317084803189.html

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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The picture of the near-deserted pedestrian street and the one looking across to the bridge were both taken in the first week of February, the others were taken yesterday. It's not back to normal yet, but it's getting there.There have been no new reported cases in the last 19 days, that's in a city with a population of more than 3 million (locals say it's a small city!).

That pedestrian street is usually quite crowded 7 days a week, only now people are starting to venture out more.

The photo taken outside of the department store shows hand sanitizer, QR codes that you have to scan when entering and leaving (download a special app on phone), and the customary temperature check (assistant has a hand-held laser thermometer).

I finally managed to get a beer as bars are slowly starting to re-open again.

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[the other bob wilson]

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The picture of the near-deserted pedestrian street and the one looking across to the bridge were both taken in the first week of February, the others were taken yesterday. It's not back to normal yet, but it's getting there.There have been no new reported cases in the last 19 days, that's in a city with a population of more than 3 million (locals say it's a small city!).

That pedestrian street is usually quite crowded 7 days a week, only now people are starting to venture out more.

The photo taken outside of the department store shows hand sanitizer, QR codes that you have to scan when entering and leaving (download a special app on phone), and the customary temperature check (assistant has a hand-held laser thermometer).

I finally managed to get a beer as bars are slowly starting to re-open again.

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Thanks very much for that, I think that's heartening for those over here who may well have to go through something similar soon .

[splott parker]

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Cheers Rock Flock, it’s so much better reading your updates as a man on the ground, so to speak, rather than some of the shock jocks we seem to be encountering.

[delmbox]

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That is great to see, thanks Rock Flock