Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

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They said on monday they were "on target" to acheive it. That is the capacity to analyse them, not collect them.
But either way I'll believe it when it happens,

The problem with tests is that people ( like doctors, nurses ,ancillary staff ,carers) will need testing over and over again. If you're clear today it doesn't mean you'll be clear tomorrow. It's just like a car MOT, just a snapshot of one day.

[Vindec]

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Its not going to. Some of the latest reports on vaccines are not pointing to a game changer any time soon either.

Johnson though has promised 10m tests a day.

That will allow some sort of normality before a vaccine.

Im suprised he isnt being questioned about this. If its more of his bullshit then the Tories need be removing him along with his entire front bench.

10m tests a day is a virtually impossible target to meet considering we are only testing up to 588000 at the moment. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/testing

One scientist said on TV yesterday that, like the common cold and flu, this virus will be with us forever and we will just have to live with it.

The vaccines likely to be available next year are not the answer as they are short lived and will require several treatments per year to be effective. Work is going on to find improved vaccines but they won't be forthcoming for a while yet.

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10m tests a day is a virtually impossible target to meet considering we are only testing up to 588000 at the moment. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/testing

One scientist said on TV yesterday that, like the common cold and flu, this virus will be with us forever and we will just have to live with it.

The vaccines likely to be available next year are not the answer as they are short lived and will require several treatments per year to be effective. Work is going on to find improved vaccines but they won't be forthcoming for a while yet.

So much doom.....The new tests are like pregnancy tests aren’t they? So can be done at home. Drakeford was saying today that they will be the way we get things back to normal post firebreak didn’t he? Let’s hope it comes off soon.
Didn’t Valance say the other day the Oxford vaccine is looking good for some to have before Christmas? Why doubt it.....

[Hilts]

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Think this is Vallances latest.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/19/covid-vaccine-will-not-be-available-in-uk-until-spring-says-vallance

[Vindec]

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So much doom.....The new tests are like pregnancy tests aren’t they? So can be done at home. Drakeford was saying today that they will be the way we get things back to normal post firebreak didn’t he? Let’s hope it comes off soon.
Didn’t Valance say the other day the Oxford vaccine is looking good for some to have before Christmas? Why doubt it.....

I'm not doubting it. I presume you know that the Oxford vaccine is delivered in 2 doses 28 days apart. NHS staff and carers will begin getting the vaccine early next month. Good news. However, Immunity declines after 3 months so if people want the best protection they will need up to 4 a year. Thus the vaccine or the alternatives which are being worked on are not the total answer but it is hoped the next generation of vaccines will be better. I am not decrying the achievements of the Oxford people but all I was saying (not with the greatest of clarity I accept) is that there are better vaccines to come.

[Vindec]

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I'm not doubting it. I presume you know that the Oxford vaccine is delivered in 2 doses 28 days apart. NHS staff and carers will begin getting the vaccine early next month. Good news. However, Immunity declines after 3 months so if people want the best protection they will need up to 4 a year. Thus the vaccine or the alternatives which are being worked on are not the total answer but it is hoped the next generation of vaccines will be better. I am not decrying the achievements of the Oxford people but all I was saying (not with the greatest of clarity I accept) is that there are better vaccines to come.

I meant to say the vaccine will be given to NHS and carers in December and not next month. Too late to edit. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...t-nhs-22901794

[Hilts]

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It hasnt been confirmed that any vaccination to anyone will begin in December.

We dont even have confirmation that one works yet.

[Vindec]

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It hasnt been confirmed that any vaccination to anyone will begin in December.

We dont even have confirmation that one works yet.

There is plenty online about NHS and care staff getting the vaccine in December but I found a link from the Mirror as I know from past experience linking articles from the Mail and Sun for example attracts abuse. However, here's one from the Mail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8875931/Coronavirus-vaccine-weeks-NHS-workers.html

It sounds pretty conclusive to me when an NHS Trust e mails its staff telling them to get ready to receive the vaccine in December. Of course the rest of the population will get the vaccine much later as it is rolled out to the various priority groups.

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It hasnt been confirmed that any vaccination to anyone will begin in December.

We dont even have confirmation that one works yet.

Oh well, survival of the fittest then is it....

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I'm not doubting it. I presume you know that the Oxford vaccine is delivered in 2 doses 28 days apart. NHS staff and carers will begin getting the vaccine early next month. Good news. However, Immunity declines after 3 months so if people want the best protection they will need up to 4 a year. Thus the vaccine or the alternatives which are being worked on are not the total answer but it is hoped the next generation of vaccines will be better. I am not decrying the achievements of the Oxford people but all I was saying (not with the greatest of clarity I accept) is that there are better vaccines to come.

They dont know If immunity declines after 3 months with the potential vaccine yet do they? That’s just with people who have already had the virus maybe isn’t it? I was reading about Vietnam today, about 30 deaths in 90 million people. They must surely have some genetic immunity in those countries, South Korea, China, Japan etc....

[Hilts]

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It will be a huge boost with the long winter ahead if news that a vaccine shows that it offers protection even if its just effective to say 50% of the public.

[Vindec]

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They dont know If immunity declines after 3 months with the potential vaccine yet do they? That’s just with people who have already had the virus maybe isn’t it? I was reading about Vietnam today, about 30 deaths in 90 million people. They must surely have some genetic immunity in those countries, South Korea, China, Japan etc....

I don't know. I was just quoting from a scientist on Sky news yesterday but that could have just been his opinion and not a universal one.

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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1322105687795732490?s=21

Those who have been careless about the virus can **** off... dragging us ALL down just because they are damn impatient! And if they didn’t go on holiday (assuming minority are for essential visits) then this strain wouldn’t be here! Like do they need a bloody holiday!? They are reducing the security of others just for that ffs!

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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/...795732490?s=21

Those who have been careless about the virus can **** off... dragging us ALL down just because they are damn impatient! And if they didn’t go on holiday (assuming minority are for essential visits) then this strain wouldn’t be here! Like do they need a bloody holiday!? They are reducing the security of others just for that ffs!

I wonder if we hadn’t allowed holidays abroad if we would be in a position similar to NZ now.

[Baloo]

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Article about the Eat-Out scheme:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-eat-out-to-help-out-accelerated-second-wave-of-covid-19-study-says-12118285?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter