Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Your sources?

Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.

[life on mars]

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Expect to hear good stuff about this, if my sources are correct. Won’t put my neck right in the block as this isn’t a player signing type stuff....but it’s the best yet AND it’s already here and waiting. No logistical or temperature issues.

Any hope is great news .

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Any hope is great news .

What does that mean?

Even though Cardiff City are middling in the Championship I have a fantastic hope that they will go up as Champions.

Phew. I had my doubts but that's great news!

[goats]

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Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.

That’s right but this wasn’t them.

[the other bob wilson]

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Over a thousand new cases in Wales for a third consecutive day after it was below that level earlier in the week - that doesn't look good in terms of the effectiveness of the firebreak, but I suppose it's too early to draw too many conclusions.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary

Down under a thousand in Wales today - surprised by the lower Cwm Taf Morgannwg figure, I wonder if that's got anything to do with the testing situation in Merthyr?

https://public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary

[xsnaggle]

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Down under a thousand in Wales today - surprised by the lower Cwm Taf Morgannwg figure, I wonder if that's got anything to do with the testing situation in Merthyr?

https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary

Or maybe its just because its Sunday and the usual weekend blip.

[Rjk]

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Down under a thousand in Wales today - surprised by the lower Cwm Taf Morgannwg figure, I wonder if that's got anything to do with the testing situation in Merthyr?

https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary

the daily figure is too erratic to read much into it, the graphs are more useful, it looks as though we may have plateaued, or be coming down very graduallyIMG_20201122_162622.jpg

[the other bob wilson]

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What you say is true for deaths figures, but the day of the week it is doesn’t seem to be that much of a factor when it comes to new cases.

[lisvaneblue]

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Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.

Oxford vaccine 70% effective. It uses more traditional technology bit like the flu vaccine and with similar effectiveness.

So here is a vaccine that is much easier to store and administer but 25% less effective, and it's the one UK has purchased 100m doses of.

Maybe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be given to the elderly and the Oxford rolled out to the general population.

All good news and the sooner its available the better

[goats]

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Oxford vaccine 70% effective. It uses more traditional technology bit like the flu vaccine and with similar effectiveness.

So here is a vaccine that is much easier to store and administer but 25% less effective, and it's the one UK has purchased 100m doses of.

Maybe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be given to the elderly and the Oxford rolled out to the general population.

All good news and the sooner its available the better

This is what my “mate” told me last week, he said about 90% though, he must have meant the people they gave half a dose, then another full dose too.....still, good news I guess

[the other bob wilson]

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Oxford vaccine 70% effective. It uses more traditional technology bit like the flu vaccine and with similar effectiveness.

So here is a vaccine that is much easier to store and administer but 25% less effective, and it's the one UK has purchased 100m doses of.

Maybe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be given to the elderly and the Oxford rolled out to the general population.

All good news and the sooner its available the better

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

Interesting line about how the effectiveness rose to 80 per cent in people given an initial half dose and then a full dose.

From what I understand, this is a field where 50 per cent effectiveness is considered good, so I'm not sure I buy that bit about 70 per cent being a "disappointment" and I don't get how thirty cases of Covid among those who were given the vaccine and 101 in those given a dummy works out at 70 per cent protection when 20,000 people were involved in the testing.

[lisvaneblue]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

Interesting line about how the effectiveness rose to 80 per cent in people given an initial half dose and then a full dose.

From what I understand, this is a field where 50 per cent effectiveness is considered good, so I'm not sure I buy that bit about 70 per cent being a "disappointment" and I don't get how thirty cases of Covid among those who were given the vaccine and 101 in those given a dummy works out at 70 per cent protection when 20,000 people were involved in the testing.

The maths do make sense. 101 of 10,000 got Covid when given a placebo. In those given the vaccine only 30 got it, which is 70% less than the placebo group, so it's 70% effective.
Interesting point about the group given a half dose first. No doubt this will be investigated further.

[goats]

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The maths do make sense. 101 of 10,000 got Covid when given a placebo. In those given the vaccine only 30 got it, which is 70% less than the placebo group, so it's 70% effective.
Interesting point about the group given a half dose first. No doubt this will be investigated further.

Yes particularly as we have so many doses. I guess even 70 is considered good when our regular flu vaccine is about 50%.

[goats]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

Interesting line about how the effectiveness rose to 80 per cent in people given an initial half dose and then a full dose.

From what I understand, this is a field where 50 per cent effectiveness is considered good, so I'm not sure I buy that bit about 70 per cent being a "disappointment" and I don't get how thirty cases of Covid among those who were given the vaccine and 101 in those given a dummy works out at 70 per cent protection when 20,000 people were involved in the testing.

Up to 90% Bob not 80%.

[the other bob wilson]

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Up to 90% Bob not 80%.

Thanks, that's what I get for mislaying my glasses again. Thanks also to lisvaneblue for his clarification.

Another encouraging aspect of this trial is that none of the people involved who caught Covid were hospitalised.