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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Thanks, that's what I get for mislaying my glasses again. Thanks also to lisvaneblue for his clarification.

    Another encouraging aspect of this trial is that none of the people involved who caught Covid were hospitalised.
    This sounds so promising hope people dont think they can now go out and have a massive party.

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      Originally posted by jeepster View Post
      This sounds so promising hope people dont think they can now go out and have a massive party.
      Here's me on reading that, just cranked on a live version of '586' and currently jigging around the kitchen with a bottle of Moretti.

      I'm swerving the neighbours though.

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
        Thanks, that's what I get for mislaying my glasses again. Thanks also to lisvaneblue for his clarification.

        Another encouraging aspect of this trial is that none of the people involved who caught Covid were hospitalised.
        Also, and I find this stuff a bit confusing, the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine boost T-Cell immunity rather than Antibody. So it *should* be more effective long term.

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Great news about the Oxford vaccine but can anyone please explain why the results differ with 1.5 doses and 2 doses? What are the mechanics? And which technology will be best?

          Gonna have the vaccine anyway, but I am extremely curious about it

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            Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
            Here's me on reading that, just cranked on a live version of '586' and currently jigging around the kitchen with a bottle of Moretti.

            I'm swerving the neighbours though.

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
              Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.
              ergo goats is either a student nurse or lives in a loony bin.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by goats View Post
                Yes particularly as we have so many doses. I guess even 70 is considered good when our regular flu vaccine is about 50%.

                The question is, 70% effective but longer term protection, or 90% effective, more costly, and not as long protection.

                In 6-9 months these vaccines will start looking a little primitive as other vaccines continue to be developed, the key point being that the virus can be contained, at least, by the wonders of modern science.

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by adz-a32 View Post
                  Great news about the Oxford vaccine but can anyone please explain why the results differ with 1.5 doses and 2 doses? What are the mechanics? And which technology will be best?

                  Gonna have the vaccine anyway, but I am extremely curious about it
                  A difficult one for us mortals....
                  One idea is the immune system rejects the vaccine, which is built around a common cold virus, if it is given in too big an initial dose.

                  Or a low then high shot may be a better mimic of a coronavirus infection and lead to a better immune response.


                  Covid-19: Oxford University vaccine is highly effective https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                    ergo goats is either a student nurse or lives in a loony bin.
                    Definitely the latter, all my life too

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Worth a watch for the sceptics out there......

                      Karan Rajan says 'safety has never been compromised' in developing the vaccines and the fact they are out quicker than others is down to a variety of reasons

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        There have been 190 deaths involving the virus in Wales, latest weekly figures from ONS show


                        Deaths in Wales still on the rise. The highest weekly total since early-May apparently.

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55057642

                          Deaths in Wales still on the rise. The highest weekly total since early-May apparently.
                          Cardiff cases were up to around 630 yesterday

                          A 10% rise since Thursday, when they had gone down well since the 2 week lockdown. Stayed around 565 for three days last week, but has gone upon two days since

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55057642

                            Deaths in Wales still on the rise. The highest weekly total since early-May apparently.
                            Bad in the valleys still looking at that graph.....

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55057642

                              Deaths in Wales still on the rise. The highest weekly total since early-May apparently.
                              If infections is on a 2-3 week lag then deaths is probably a couple of weeks behind that, so the high numbers now probably refelects the worst of the second spike?

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                              • Re: Coronavirus update

                                Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                                If infections is on a 2-3 week lag then deaths is probably a couple of weeks behind that, so the high numbers now probably refelects the worst of the second spike?
                                Agreed, it's certainly conceivable that many of those deaths were people who caught the virus pre firebreak.

                                Just under 600 new cases in Wales today with more than two thirds of them in Blaenau Gwent and only 37 in Cardiff. It was a low number of tests compared to normal though, but is that because there weren't as many people requiring them?

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