Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[IanD]

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Should the enquiry be asap?

https://news.sky.com/story/dominic-c...eaths-12317232

Next spring....when data shows what a brilliant leader Johnson has been and got Covid under control. All will be well with the world by then.

[Freitag 4.17]

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Matt Hancock and the ****ing fat clown at the very least need to resign, and should be tried for manslaughter if what has gone down today at this select committee is at all true.

[the other bob wilson]

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Wasn’t it just a rehash of what should have been clear for ages? The sheer ineptitude of this Prime Minister and Cabinet is accepted by millions who, amazingly, still support them. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see Cummings’ testimony changing anything.

[surge]

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As one journalist said it's best to treat Cummings as a defecting spy from opposition camp, but as another journalist said we're about to find out how good a job Cummings did of convincing the public Boris Johnson is a Prime Minister to be admired regardless of what the facts say.

Interesting to see plenty of articles regarding current variant (first identified in India) saying UK in much stronger position because of lower infection rates and good roll-out of the vaccine then Cummings to say this:

“If we’d crushed it in September, by the time the variants came along we’d have been in a much better position.” Cummings says this isn’t hindsight - PM was told by Patrick Vallance and others in September.

Two key moments in this pandemic were when people moved back into care homes and response to rising number of cases in winter. Variant first identified in Kent might have been new but something like that was to be expected and Scotland, Wales and England took a very different approach during that autumn/winter period when over half the deaths from covid occurred. Imo, Boris protected Christmas shopping instead of Christmas shoppers.

[delmbox]

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Wasn’t it just a rehash of what should have been clear for ages? The sheer ineptitude of this Prime Minister and Cabinet is accepted by millions who, amazingly, still support them. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see Cummings’ testimony changing anything.

It doesn't seem like news because most of us have assumed it for over a year but it's the first time somebody who was in the room at the time has described exactly how bad it was. Won't change a single thing though.

[surge]

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As one journalist said it's best to treat Cummings as a defecting spy from opposition camp, but as another journalist said we're about to find out how good a job Cummings did of convincing the public Boris Johnson is a Prime Minister to be admired regardless of what the facts say.


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And maybe the start of Cummings doing exactly the same role for Sunak or Rabb?

[Hilts]

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And maybe the start of Cummings doing exactly the same role for Sunak or Rabb?

Id say there is a near zero chance of Cummings ever coming back as any government adviser.

[Freitag 4.17]

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And maybe the start of Cummings doing exactly the same role for Sunak or Rabb?

Or (Not very pretty on the inside) Priti ..

[surge]

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Id say there is a near zero chance of Cummings ever coming back as any government adviser.

It's not so much about Cummings but how he might be setting up someone to be admired, rightly or wrongly, regardless of how the facts suggest they should be looked at.

Just a final thought on this today, does anyone else wish the UK got the Prime Minister's and SPADs 6 months after they have left that position instead of the versions of those same people when they're in office? The opposite to that of course is the versions of them when they're on the election campaign or when they're in government and winning approval/taking it away from opposition is more important than getting the answer right.

[goats]

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Wasn’t it just a rehash of what should have been clear for ages? The sheer ineptitude of this Prime Minister and Cabinet is accepted by millions who, amazingly, still support them. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see Cummings’ testimony changing anything.

Probably because Cummings is a c u n t and everyone with half a brain knows it....government screwed up loads, unfortunately for us we have them and basically no one else to run the shitshow. Saved by science and nothing else

[goats]

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Boris will jump ship soon, getting paid peanuts compared to what he’s used too, loads of flack almost daily....why would anyone want it?
He’d get more for writing a column in a national rag probably....

[the other bob wilson]

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Probably because Cummings is a c u n t and everyone with half a brain knows it....government screwed up loads, unfortunately for us we have them and basically no one else to run the shitshow. Saved by science and nothing else

I don’t quite know why, but what you say puts me in mind of a scene from the last ever episode of the brilliant The Thick of It where a character who did a similar job for the Conservatives as Cummings gave a speech after he was sacked.

[lisvaneblue]

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It's not so much about Cummings but how he might be setting up someone to be admired, rightly or wrongly, regardless of how the facts suggest they should be looked at.

Just a final thought on this today, does anyone else wish the UK got the Prime Minister's and SPADs 6 months after they have left that position instead of the versions of those same people when they're in office? The opposite to that of course is the versions of them when they're on the election campaign or when they're in government and winning approval/taking it away from opposition is more important than getting the answer right.

This is a political play by Cummings to manoeuvre Gove into Number 10.

[Tuerto]

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Wasn’t it just a rehash of what should have been clear for ages? The sheer ineptitude of this Prime Minister and Cabinet is accepted by millions who, amazingly, still support them. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see Cummings’ testimony changing anything.

Agreed, and to be fair to you, you've been saying as much from the start of this Pandemic.