Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Gofer Blue]

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Covid: People in hospital with Indian variant not increasing significantly - NHS boss https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57367849

Aren't the majority of these people ones who were entitled to receive the vaccine but have refused it?

[life on mars]

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Aren't the majority of these people ones who were entitled to receive the vaccine but have refused it?

Ironic , I find it even more incredible that care home workers and NHS staff are refusing to take the vaccine

[goats]

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Aren't the majority of these people ones who were entitled to receive the vaccine but have refused it?

Probably, or young enough for it to not really affect them

[surge]

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In Wales, over 60% of adults under 30 have already had their first dose of the vaccine.

We expect to have offered the first dose to every adult in Wales by this time next week.

No one should be left behind. Think you've been missed? Get in touch

https://twitter.com/WelshGovernment/...71616359940099

This bit of the message is just as important.

[xsnaggle]

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What are you asking here?

When I posted that the two links were different, one said there were only 3 deaths in the week just gone and the other said there had been no covid related deaths for 12 days. Both on the BBC Wales website at 0800 this morning.
Which is why I asked the question.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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'closed down' in a generic sense - put on stop -put back- removed from list- added to list

If you put opening up back any further, extend what are in effect holiday bans, because you're 'concerned', then we'll carry on like this indefinitely.
If you don't reach a stage in your reasoning that a risk is possible yet unlikely, then you will never stop the endless fear that's plaguing Government. What's ironic, is there isn't actually a new variant according to WHO, it's a minor mutation of which there have been 1000's.

Not 'closed down' in the sense of being closed down then. In recent weeks I have drunk beer in pub gardens, increased the number of people on my walks from 6 to up to 30, attended a football game, visited Wales, eaten in restaurants with up to 6 friends etc - all things that I couldn't do a month or two ago. Yes, some measures have had to be revised or reversed in the short term but being 'closed down again' it ain't.

[xsnaggle]

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Here you go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57399148

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57226423

[goats]

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Interesting views on where it originated from coming again, with wuhans institute of virology looking likely again....

Firstly, they claim that the Covid-19 pathogen has a genetic footprint that has never been observed in a natural coronavirus before. To put this in its simplest form, Covid-19 has the genome sequencing CGC-CGG or "double CGG" which is one of the 36 sequencing patterns. They said CGC is rarely used in the class of coronaviruses that can recombine with CoV-2 which is a "damning fact".

Dr Quay, the founder of US-based biopharmaceutical company Atossa, wrote: "The insertion sequence of choice is the double CGG. That's because it is readily available and convenient, and scientists have a great deal of experience inserting it. An additional advantage of the double CGG sequence compared with the other 35 possible choices: It creates a useful beacon that permits the scientists to track the insertion in the laboratory."

The experts added: "In fact, in the entire class of coronaviruses that includes CoV-2, the CGG-CGG combination has never been found naturally. That means the common method of viruses picking up new skills, called recombination, cannot operate here.

Full story in Wales online

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-covid-wuhan-lab-china-20768398

[surge]

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When I posted that the two links were different, one said there were only 3 deaths in the week just gone and the other said there had been no covid related deaths for 12 days. Both on the BBC Wales website at 0800 this morning.
Which is why I asked the question.

A few days ago they said there hadn't been a death in x number of days but had recorded one from last year.

In theory, it's possible that in a year's time we're told actually there was a death recorded within this timeframe so guess difference is that we'd have to really search for them rather than it being so obvious.

If anyone has been missed regarding vaccine they'd love to hear from you.

[xsnaggle]

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A few days ago they said there hadn't been a death in x number of days but had recorded one from last year.

In theory, it's possible that in a year's time we're told actually there was a death recorded within this timeframe so guess difference is that we'd have to really search for them rather than it being so obvious.

If anyone has been missed regarding vaccine they'd love to hear from you.

I don't really understand what you are trying to say here.
I only pointed out that as both articles were posted on the BBC website on the same day (today) that I could not see how they could both be considered right. That's all. I'm not getting at the government or PHW it is more a question of the BBC not checking what they are putting out.
And I still don't know which one is right.

[surge]

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I don't really understand what you are trying to say here.
I only pointed out that as both articles were posted on the BBC website on the same day (today) that I could not see how they could both be considered right. That's all. I'm not getting at the government or PHW it is more a question of the BBC not checking what they are putting out.
And I still don't know which one is right.

I'm going to make up the dates to help illustrate the point but basically the story was that Wales had gone 11 days without a death from covid but an extra one had been recorded relating to May 2020.

That might explain how a story can report 12 days without a death and also 3 deaths being recorded.

[xsnaggle]

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I'm going to make up the dates to help illustrate the point but basically the story was that Wales had gone 11 days without a death from covid but an extra one had been recorded relating to May 2020.

That might explain how a story can report 12 days without a death and also 3 deaths being recorded.

But that is not what the articles said. One said no deaths for the last 12 (now 13) days and the other said 3 deaths in the last week. No mention of historical deaths being added.

[lardy]

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But that is not what the articles said. One said no deaths for the last 12 (now 13) days and the other said 3 deaths in the last week. No mention of historical deaths being added.

I think this is the key sentence in the deaths article:

"They are regarded as more complete than the daily snapshot figures reported by Public Health Wales."

Zero deaths is the PHW info. The ONS uses death certificates, which are available later. That's how the articles explain it.

[lisvaneblue]

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I think this is the key sentence in the deaths article:

"They are regarded as more complete than the daily snapshot figures reported by Public Health Wales."

Zero deaths is the PHW info. The ONS uses death certificates, which are available later. That's how the articles explain it.

It's the same with the total deaths data. PHW says just under 5,600 total since the start of the pandemic. ONS say just over 7,800. Big difference

[life on mars]

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People who have had Covid don't need to be vaccinated ,interesting report ,could speed the vaccine on if adopted ?

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2