Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

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This is also potentially positive https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rus-says-china

[bobh]

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Venice canals clear after just a few days of non-human interaction

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-51943104/coronavirus-venice-canals-clearer-after-lockdown

[the other bob wilson]

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A piece of good news, no new cases on mainland China for a second successive day;-

[ToTaL ITK]

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I wonder if the chinese went out and cleared the shelves of every store in their lock down ?
serious question

[jon1959]

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Car Phone Warehouse....Gone

No more free Caribbean holidays for Boris Johnson!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-mustique-villa-stay-21500154

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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I wonder if the chinese went out and cleared the shelves of every store in their lock down ?
serious question

No, I didn't witness anything of that to be honest. I visited the supermarkets quite frequently and didn't notice any panic buying, in fact, it was almost the opposite... the supermarkets were quieter than normal. People didn't want to risk entering crowded places.

[Organ Morgan.]

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A piece of good news, no new cases on mainland China for a second successive day;-

Chinese coronavirus scores on the doors are: number of cases, 80,967; number of deaths, 3,248; mortality rate, 4.%.

China's population is 1,408 million, meaning one in every 433 thousand Chinese citizens thus far have died.

Unable to pinpoint any official Chinese data re the age and gender of the deceased.

But whatever their stats are they are unlikely to differ in a material way to what's coming out of Europe where in Germany the youngest deceased is 67, eldest 94, the majority of whom had chronic conditions (cancer, lung disease).

In Italy, the average age of those who have died is 81 years... 90% being over 70, 10% 90+.

80% of the deceased had suffered from two or more chronic diseases. 50% of the deceased had suffered from three or more chronic diseases. The chronic diseases include in particular cardiovascular problems, diabetes, respiratory problems and cancer.

Less than 1% of the deceased were healthy persons, i.e. persons without pre-existing chronic diseases. Only about 30% of the deceased are women.

The Italy info came from this report: https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronav...9_13_marzo.pdf

It appears the US, UK, EU and others are prepared to close down large sectors of their economies for an indefinite period, place restrictions on their citizens' liberties and create an infinite amount of new debt to combat a problem that almost exclusively kills the weakest and eldest who are already on their last legs.

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It appears the US, UK, EU and others are prepared to close down large sectors of their economies for an indefinite period, place restrictions on their citizens' liberties and create an infinite amount of new debt to combat a problem that almost exclusively kills the weakest and eldest who are already on their last legs.

Would you rather let them die because they're "only the old, weak and vulnerable?" Because that's what it sounds like. I'd love a straight answer please because you've revealed quite a lot about your character since this all started happening and none of it's positive

[Croesy Blue]

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Also China limited their deaths because everyone was locked down for over a month, longer in the worse hit areas.

Italy had 500 deaths in a day this week, does it matter if they were older and weaker people? How many more would have died if the lock downs weren;'t in place.

[Organ Morgan.]

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Blow up economies, saddle generations with a vast amount of debt to repay and taking a hammer to the purchasing power of the pound versus hoping to extend the lives of the aged who are already seriously ill for maybe a year or two. I'll opt for the latter.

Those who choose the former should remember not to grumble when they have to dig very deep for years on end to help finance it all.

[Croesy Blue]

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Would you rather let them die because they're "only the old, weak and vulnerable?" Because that's what it sounds like. I'd love a straight answer please because you've revealed quite a lot about your character since this all started happening and none of it's positive

He's more interested in his original point he posted on ccmb being right than the wellbeing of anyone.

Every hole anyone has pointed in his logic has been ignored and he just stops posting until he can post anything that he can use to back him up even if there are loads of holes in his logic.

The governments of the world are in a no win situation, do nothing and a lot of people will die, isolate everyone and lower the deaths signifcantly and people will say "look no one died what a waste".

[Croesy Blue]

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Blow up economies, saddle generations with a vast amount of debt to repay and taking a hammer to the purchasing power of the pound versus hoping to extend the lives of the aged who are already seriously ill for maybe a year or two. I'll opt for the latter.

Those who choose the former should remember not to grumble when they have to dig very deep for years on end to help finance it all.

You don't seem to realise how much worse this will get if it isn't contained.

Hospitals will become overwhelmed and lots of other people will die (This has already started happening in Italy). In Italy and Ireland a lot of people who have been admitted to ICUs and have needed breathing assisstance have been people under 60. If the hosptials get overwhelmed people like this will die.

Do you think a Tory government would **** up our economy just to save a few old and sick people?

[rudy gestede]

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Chinese coronavirus scores on the doors are: number of cases, 80,967; number of deaths, 3,248; mortality rate, 4.%. almost like the lockdowns helped slow infections and save lives. Are you believing numbers put out by the Chinese government now?

China's population is 1,408 million, meaning one in every 433 thousand Chinese citizens thus far have died. almost like locking the country down saved lives

Unable to pinpoint any official Chinese data re the age and gender of the deceased.

But whatever their stats are they are unlikely to differ in a material way to what's coming out of Europe where in Germany the youngest deceased is 67, eldest 94, the majority of whom had chronic conditions (cancer, lung disease).

In Italy, the average age of those who have died is 81 years... 90% being over 70, 10% 90+.

80% of the deceased had suffered from two or more chronic diseases. 50% of the deceased had suffered from three or more chronic diseases. The chronic diseases include in particular cardiovascular problems, diabetes, respiratory problems and cancer.

Less than 1% of the deceased were healthy persons, i.e. persons without pre-existing chronic diseases. Only about 30% of the deceased are women.

The Italy info came from this report: https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronav...9_13_marzo.pdf

It appears the US, UK, EU and others are prepared to close down large sectors of their economies for an indefinite period, place restrictions on their citizens' liberties and create an infinite amount of new debt to combat a problem that almost exclusively kills the weakest and eldest who are already on their last legs. do you honestly think these governments would do this if there was no risk?

Are you a bit thick or just stubborn

[Organ Morgan.]

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He's more interested in his original point he posted on ccmb being right than the wellbeing of anyone.

Every hole anyone has pointed in his logic has been ignored and he just stops posting until he can post anything that he can use to back him up even if there are loads of holes in his logic.

The governments of the world are in a no win situation, do nothing and a lot of people will die, isolate everyone and lower the deaths signifcantly and people will say "look no one died what a waste".

China solved the problem (perhaps temporarily) in what, 50 days? I checked the numbers before posting. Pro rata wise Britain's 144 fatalities is almost up to China's total and measures here remain half-arsed.

[Croesy Blue]

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10,000 global deaths in 3 months seems a lot to me, especially as outside of a handful of countries most countries haven't reached peak infrections yet. The fact China are now reporting no infections seems like social distancing for a few months really works.