Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

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Deborah Birx, White House Covid task force just openly pitied UK ventilator capacity: “We’re worried about groups all around the globe...they have 8000 ventilators in the UK. If you translate that to the US that would be equivalent to us having 40000 ventilators. We have 5x that”

To recap, special relationship in an...unusual place: Trump spent five minutes lamenting what he said was Britain’s herd immunity strategy and one of his principal scientific advisers openly lamented our lack of ventilators.

Lewis Goodall: https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...22087452397568

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Our herd immunity strategy was ridiculous but trump was calling this a hoax a month ago and a simple flu 2 weeks ago so not sure he's the right person to pass judgement.

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What happened to this thread?

I think the existence or God is a relevant side debate to have within a thread about a pandemic that's causing thousands of deaths per day. It'll get back on track

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To bring the thread back on track:

What do you make of the New York City data? If I read it correctly, only 14 out of 932 cases had no underlying conditions.

Do we think we should be allowed to go about our daily lives as normal as it's only people who are already a bit ill who are dying in their hundreds per week?

Should we ignore that this would overwhelm the health service until even non corona suffers are dying (they were already ill anyway!)

Should we ignore the fact that a non insignificant percent of people get irrepariable lung damage from coronavirus?

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Speaking to a colleague in Denmark this morning they are planning a gradual easing of restrictions after Easter.

Denmark went in to lockdown 3 weeks ago before any deaths from the disease and there have since been 90 deaths in the country overall. These have stabilised to around 10 per day over the last week or so.

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It's ok though, it's not really a virus.

Piers Corbyn has claimed that a Telecoms executive stated covid-19 is in fact the bodies natural reaction to stresses caused by 5G - both Wuhan AND the major cruise ship affected have... 5G.

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Speaking to a colleague in Denmark this morning they are planning a gradual easing of restrictions after Easter.

Denmark went in to lockdown 3 weeks ago before any deaths from the disease and there have since been 90 deaths in the country overall. These have stabilised to around 10 per day over the last week or so.

Still crazy that we didn't do the same.

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Still crazy that we didn't do the same.

Yet Imperial College London report claimed we got out timings right.

IMO, if lockdown had been ordered day 1, there would have been mass protests and disobedience. Instead it's been recommended to stay home - as people have then abused it, it's been "locked down". I suspect most Brits will accept that given the "nice" approach being abused. Some will always disobey.

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Yet Imperial College London report claimed we got out timings right.

IMO, if lockdown had been ordered day 1, there would have been mass protests and disobedience. Instead it's been recommended to stay home - as people have then abused it, it's been "locked down". I suspect most Brits will accept that given the "nice" approach being abused. Some will always disobey.

That does make sense. But surely if the government had acted a month earlier we may not have needed such tight restrictions?

It isn't just a british problem, a lot of european countries also didn't think it was that much of an issue until people started dying.

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That does make sense. But surely if the government had acted a month earlier we may not have needed such tight restrictions?

It isn't just a british problem, a lot of european countries also didn't think it was that much of an issue until people started dying.

I suspect that's more due to the information coming through. WHO back in Jan believed couldn't be transmitted person to person and had a phone call with Lady Gaga...

Germany have had a large rise in deaths. Someone speculated that their testing may well have focused on the young rather than general population.

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I suspect that's more due to the information coming through. WHO back in Jan believed couldn't be transmitted person to person and had a phone call with Lady Gaga...

I still haven't seen this anywhere, do you have a link? I honestly cannot ever remember hearing that once.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/timeline-china-coronavirus-spread-200126061554884.html

There's a timeline and it says the WHO were alerted in December/January to a virus. I'm not saying that's spot on but I hadn't heard any different.

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It's ok though, it's not really a virus.

Piers Corbyn has claimed that a Telecoms executive stated covid-19 is in fact the bodies natural reaction to stresses caused by 5G - both Wuhan AND the major cruise ship affected have... 5G.

Who is Piers Corbyn? Sounds like someone made up the name by chucking two darts at Twitter.

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Jan 14th, WHO tweeted "Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,".

Looking for the tweet now, presume they haven't deleted it.

If so, it's damning for them taking Chinese authorities at their word with no independent checking.

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Jan 14th, WHO tweeted "Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,".

Looking for the tweet now, presume they haven't deleted it.

If so, it's damning for them taking Chinese authorities at their word with no independent checking.

https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152?lang=en

Yep you're right, it's a shame the Chinese government won't get half the grief they deserve for this.

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Who is Piers Corbyn? Sounds like someone made up the name by chucking two darts at Twitter.

Piers is the cleverer of the two brothers.