Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[xsnaggle]

Re: Coronavirus update

sorry sludge, there you go.

No deliveries yet under EU equipment scheme
BBC Reality check
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In late February, the European Union launched a plan to buy equipment to tackle the coronavirus outbreak on behalf of its members.

It was aimed at reducing costs when negotiating with manufacturers.

The first scheme involved buying masks and then, in March, three more schemes were added to purchase ventilators, testing kits and personal protective equipment.

But, to date, nothing has been bought and delivered.

European Commission spokesman Stefan De Keersmaecker says that while some of the suppliers that the EU selected have signed contracts, other have not.

The UK did not join the scheme, although it was able to participate because it is still in the Brexit transition period until 31 December 2020. It wasn’t clear at the time whether the government had missed the deadline to join or it did not want to take part.

'Mix-up' over EU ventilator scheme

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Coronavirus update

sorry sludge, there you go.

No deliveries yet under EU equipment scheme
BBC Reality check
Getty ImagesCopyright: Getty Images
In late February, the European Union launched a plan to buy equipment to tackle the coronavirus outbreak on behalf of its members.

It was aimed at reducing costs when negotiating with manufacturers.

The first scheme involved buying masks and then, in March, three more schemes were added to purchase ventilators, testing kits and personal protective equipment.

But, to date, nothing has been bought and delivered.

European Commission spokesman Stefan De Keersmaecker says that while some of the suppliers that the EU selected have signed contracts, other have not.

The UK did not join the scheme, although it was able to participate because it is still in the Brexit transition period until 31 December 2020. It wasn’t clear at the time whether the government had missed the deadline to join or it did not want to take part.

'Mix-up' over EU ventilator scheme

It doesn't mean that it's not going to come to fruition though does it ?

[xsnaggle]

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It doesn't mean that it's not going to come to fruition though does it ?

Oh no, it just seems everything the EU does is like elephants mating, its done at a high level with a lot of noise and it takes ages to see the results

[Wales-Bales]

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It's not the actual figures, but the trend, that is important. It is predicting a peak in the death rate in 10 days time. It is also predicting a peak in resource use in 10 days time.

It's the Murray model popularised by Dr Birx and so far it has been way off.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Oh no, it just seems everything the EU does is like elephants mating, its done at a high level with a lot of noise and it takes ages to see the results

One shall see

[xsnaggle]

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One shall see

One shall!! Beeleive me I'd much prefer it worked smoothly and efficiently. It gives me no pleasure in knowing any people aren't getting what they need. Its nothing to do with the politics.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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sorry sludge, there you go.

No deliveries yet under EU equipment scheme
BBC Reality check
Getty ImagesCopyright: Getty Images
In late February, the European Union launched a plan to buy equipment to tackle the coronavirus outbreak on behalf of its members.

It was aimed at reducing costs when negotiating with manufacturers.

The first scheme involved buying masks and then, in March, three more schemes were added to purchase ventilators, testing kits and personal protective equipment.

But, to date, nothing has been bought and delivered.

European Commission spokesman Stefan De Keersmaecker says that while some of the suppliers that the EU selected have signed contracts, other have not.

The UK did not join the scheme, although it was able to participate because it is still in the Brexit transition period until 31 December 2020. It wasn’t clear at the time whether the government had missed the deadline to join or it did not want to take part.

'Mix-up' over EU ventilator scheme

Still struggling a bit with the link you quote. I have been on the BBC Reality check site

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/reality_check

and their twitter page

https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

and couldn't find what you cut and paste. You don't have the hyperlink you can post do you?

[xsnaggle]

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Still struggling a bit with the link you quote. I have been on the BBC Reality check site

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/reality_check

and their twitter page

https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

and couldn't find what you cut and paste. You don't have the hyperlink you can post do you?

It was on the live coronavirus update that runs all day. It may be closed now but if not you should find it. Its now on page 2.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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It was on the live coronavirus update that runs all day. It may be closed now but if not you should find it. Its now on page 2.

Thanks

[surge]

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Think of it like a cancer and stop the war theme:

think of the late great Deborah Orr’s withering refusal to tolerate this nonsense in her rules on how to talk to cancer patients. “Funnily enough,” ran some typically twinkly menace, “it’s not comforting to be told that you have to go into battle with your disease, like some kind of medieval knight on a romantic quest. Submitting to medical science, in the hope of a cure, is just that – a submission. The idea that illness is a character test, with recovery as a reward for the valiant, is glib to the point of insult.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/07/horror-coronavirus-real-imaginary-war-britain

UK still pretending(?) that Brexit can happen this year:

The UK government has said it remains “absolutely committed” to Brexit negotiations and the December 2020 transition date despite the coronavirus outbreak limiting talks between the two sides.

If a deal is not reached by then, Britain will crash out of its transition agreement with the bloc onto World Trade Organization terms. This means tariffs will be higher in a number of areas.

https://www.cityam.com/uk-sticks-to-...e-coronavirus/

[Eric Cartman]

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Not going to drag it up from the depths but that thread about 'why is it worse in Italy and Spain' looks a a bit premature now.

Apparently 828 people died in England from 5pm on 06/04 to 5pm on 07/04. Official UK figure not released yet but could be 900 potentially.

[Croesy Blue]

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Not going to drag it up from the depths but that thread about 'why is it worse in Italy and Spain' looks a a bit premature now.

Apparently 828 people died in England from 5pm on 06/04 to 5pm on 07/04. Official UK figure not released yet but could be 900 potentially.

Our DNA isn't as strong as we thought!

In all seriousness we are in for a rough couple of weeks. Hopefully everyone on here is staying safe and no one gets ill.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Nearly 1000 died overnight

[Wales-Bales]

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Good news from USA, the IHME data model has now dropped to a prediction level of 60k Covid-19 deaths up until 4 August, which is the same as a heavy regular flu season. I'm a bit confused by their hospital counting methods though, as every death where Covid-19 is present or assumed to be present without testing is classified as a Covid-19 case. That means if a heart attack victim is admitted and picks up the Covid-19 virus at the hospital, then it is registered as a Covid-19 case.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

[Wash DC Blue]

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Good news from USA, the IHME data model has now dropped to a prediction level of 60k Covid-19 deaths up until 4 August, which is the same as a heavy regular flu season. I'm a bit confused by their hospital counting methods though, as every death where Covid-19 is present or assumed to be present without testing is classified as a Covid-19 case. That means if a heart attack victim is admitted and picks up the Covid-19 virus at the hospital, then it is registered as a Covid-19 case.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

The testing here is absolutely abysmal.
In Virginia right now they are testing 10% of cases that rock up to urgent care with Covid symptoms and only if it is severe.

The curve isn’t going to flatten here anytime soon.

Also a friend of my Wife is a nurse and their PPE equipment is shocking.
She has one N95 mask.
I luckily bought a box of N95 masks in January and she is on her way to pick up a few.
She also has to drive out to a gin distillery to get hand sanitizer.

Unbelievable, especially when you consider the high expense paid each month (as well as Co-pay) for Health Insurance.

If anything good can come from this, a big rethink of Health Care in America is hopefully one of them.