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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Drakeford et al fail to see the contradiction in opening up business and tourism whilst stopping people travelling to businesses and tourist destinations further than 5 miles from their home. He doesn't have any financial or economical responsibility for Wales and the people. He justs requests a bigger budget next April.
    Which he won’t get after being such a Jeremy corbyn puppet

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    • Re: Coronavirus update

      Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
      Pretty much the same as Italy, Spain, who had lockdowns far more severe than UK. Belgium much higher than UK. Also different ways of measuring. Doubt the PM is proud of what's happened.

      Apart from that a pretty accurate and informative post.

      Second only to Belgium in the whole world in terms of deaths per million population. We are very close to Spain, but there's daylight between us and Italy.

      Belgium count ALL nursing home deaths, whether coronavirus has been confirmed or not, which nobody else does, looking at the numbers of excess deaths, it is pretty likely that we are higher than Belgium and the worst affected in the world.

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by Rjk View Post
        https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/...&values=deaths
        Second only to Belgium in the whole world in terms of deaths per million population. We are very close to Spain, but there's daylight between us and Italy.

        Belgium count ALL nursing home deaths, whether coronavirus has been confirmed or not, which nobody else does, looking at the numbers of excess deaths, it is pretty likely that we are higher than Belgium and the worst affected in the world.
        I doubt Spain & Italy have accurate data knowing their public services, but it doesn't make pretty reading I'd admit. If you consider deaths occur mainly in overweight, chronically ill folk, maybe our awful health as a nation contributes. I still doubt BJ is proud of this though..

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
          I doubt Spain & Italy have accurate data knowing their public services, but it doesn't make pretty reading I'd admit. If you consider deaths occur mainly in overweight, chronically ill folk, maybe our awful health as a nation contributes. I still doubt BJ is proud of this though..
          Boris Johnson literally said in the Commons that he is "proud" of the Govt's Coronavirus response.



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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
            Well he is hardly likely to say it was shite is he? FFS he's a politician, they don't do 'truth'!

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
              Well he is hardly likely to say it was shite is he? FFS he's a politician, they don't do 'truth'!
              Saying you're proud of 50,000+ deaths on your watch is hardly much better.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                Saying you're proud of 50,000+ deaths on your watch is hardly much better.
                But some people can polish a turd!!!

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
                  The WHO formally declared it a pandemic earlier today. With a whopping total of six British deaths then should that number double we ought to run around in circles acting as though our hair is on fire.
                  This post of OM's was submitted on 11/03/20.

                  11/03/20 - 6 deaths.
                  11/06/20 - 41,279 deaths.

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                    This post of OM's was submitted on 11/03/20.

                    11/03/20 - 6 deaths.
                    11/06/20 - 41,279 deaths.
                    He hasn't been seen for about a month, I'm hoping it's in shame rather than an ironic catastrophy

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      What did our clown of a leader come up with today? Can’t face watching the buffoon talk anymore. Wales still closed despite the lowest R number in the UK? He must love a queue going to be the biggest one ever seen for universal credit in a few months......

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        Originally posted by goats View Post
                        What did our clown of a leader come up with today? Can’t face watching the buffoon talk anymore. Wales still closed despite the lowest R number in the UK? He must love a queue going to be the biggest one ever seen for universal credit in a few months......
                        The lowest R number in the country with the most deaths per capita from this virus in the world.

                        Remember when the tories produced their scoring system, there were recommendations about what the score should be be before things started opening up - England may have abandoned that system pretty much immediately for political reasons (it seems). But Wales seems to be more in line with that.

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                          Pretty much the same as Italy, Spain, who had lockdowns far more severe than UK. Belgium much higher than UK. Also different ways of measuring. Doubt the PM is proud of what's happened.

                          Apart from that a pretty accurate and informative post.
                          He's proud of his Government's record, you are here leaping to his defence. UK stand top of the league in deaths per million, you may think it's because our figures are more accurate, I happen to think it has plenty to do with sick old people being sent into care homes on the advice of our "Proud" (their word, not mine) Government.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                            The lowest R number in the country with the most deaths per capita from this virus in the world.

                            Remember when the tories produced their scoring system, there were recommendations about what the score should be be before things started opening up - England may have abandoned that system pretty much immediately for political reasons (it seems). But Wales seems to be more in line with that.
                            In some places in England, especially coastal regions like Blackpool and down in the South West, the R rate was around 1 a few days ago. So, Wales is at 0.7 (midpoint) which is fairly close to the 0.65 rate that Germany were reporting at the time of their lockdown easing.

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
                              In some places in England, especially coastal regions like Blackpool and down in the South West, the R rate was around 1 a few days ago. So, Wales is at 0.7 (midpoint) which is fairly close to the 0.65 rate that Germany were reporting at the time of their lockdown easing.

                              My focus is on Wales and today 77 more cases, with Cardiff, RCT and N Wales featuring. I do not understand the logic of our 5 mile travel limit as it pushes the population of the hot spots together, thus increasing the likelihood of catching the virus. And our First Minister cannot justify this stance with any scientific evidence.

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                              • Re: Coronavirus update

                                Originally posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
                                In some places in England, especially coastal regions like Blackpool and down in the South West, the R rate was around 1 a few days ago. So, Wales is at 0.7 (midpoint) which is fairly close to the 0.65 rate that Germany were reporting at the time of their lockdown easing.



                                R number risen above 1 in parts of England – Sage

                                The reproduction number, or R, of coronavirus across the UK remains between 0.7 and 0.9, while across England it is 0.8-1.0, according to the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.

                                Sage also published regional values for R in England for the first time, with the South West having the highest range at 0.8-1.1.

                                The East of England is at 0.7 - 0.9, London, the Midlands, the North West and the South East at 0.8 - 1.0, and the North East and Yorkshire at 0.7 - 1.0.

                                But experts cautioned against the use of regional R values - the average number of people an infected to pass the disease on to - saying that as the number of infections falls, regional R values become less reliable.

                                Instead, from next week the government will publish the growth rates for regions that are based on data and make fewer assumptions.

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