Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Its been emotional]

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I was after the flu predictions without a vaccine.

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What I am saying is the figures are similar without a so called vaccine.

What about the figures without the lockdowns? What do you think they would be then? Still similar? How can you not understand this?!

[Its been emotional]

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Are the figures correct?

[Hilts]

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What about the figures without the lockdowns? What do you think they would be then? Still similar? How can you not understand this?!

Exactly.

[lardy]

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Are the figures correct?

One minute you're making an argument about flu and covid figures being similar, the next you're saying figures can't be trusted.

[Its been emotional]

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If the government said 'good morning' I would have to go outside to have a look

[lardy]

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If the government said 'good morning' I would have to go outside to have a look

It'd be quicker and more reliable to look at your watch.

[the other bob wilson]

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All I know is that I had a jab on Tuesday which makes it less likely that I will get flu this winter and that means that, although of course, it's possible that I may die of the flu in the next few months, if it were not for Covid, I would now be going about living the life I considered normal until last March because I would not be taking measures to ensure I didn't catch flu.

If there was a similar injection for Coivd I could have, I'm confident that my life would be able to return to what it was like previously - I'd not be bothered in the slightest whether such an injection was, strictly speaking, a vaccination or not and I reckon there would be millions who'd feel exactly the same as me.

[surge]

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All I know is that I had a jab on Tuesday which makes it less likely that I will get flu this winter and that means that, although of course, it's possible that I may die of the flu in the next few months, if it were not for Covid, I would now be going about living the life I considered normal until last March because I would not be taking measures to ensure I didn't catch flu.

If there was a similar injection for Coivd I could have, I'm confident that my life would be able to return to what it was like previously - I'd not be bothered in the slightest whether such an injection was, strictly speaking, a vaccination or not and I reckon there would be millions who'd feel exactly the same as me.

Want to know more, Bob?

EXC: The chair of the UK's vaccine task force showed “official sensitive” government documents to a $200-a-head event for elite US venture capitalists last week

Kate Bingham, a Boris Johnson appointee, showed guests a list of products which the government is set to invest in (a thread): https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/...46591010971649

In her talk she said she expects all over-50s to have vaccine available by Easter. It includes this nugget:

But she also showed docs predicting up to 40% may never take it. There's “concern” over whether vaccines will “actually work". There isn't “any data” on whether it works for those with flu

As a result officials are mulling a major “three-visits” programme that will see vulnerable given on flu vaccine and two for COVID next year. She also disclosed that the government will “literally dispatch roving teams on motorbikes” to deliver the vaccine to the vulnerable

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Mark Drakeford: https://twitter.com/fmwales/status/1322637626126585856

Furlough is crucial for businesses. But @RishiSunak said he wouldn’t extend it in Wales when we asked. He also said no when we asked him to bring forward the Job Support Scheme to help businesses – we even said we’d pay the difference. It’s now clear he could have said yes.

9th of October: Scotland puts its central belt into much harder restrictions
16th of October: Northern Ireland circuit breaker for four weeks
23rd of October: Wales' circuit breaker for two weeks
5th of November: England's circuit break for one month

When you consider Ireland has done it's own version for six weeks starting at a similar time to Wales it appears that two weeks as late as we did is a much shorter period of time. I can't help but wonder if the Senedd wanted to do it for longer and was stopped by having no information, not even what Tier 3 extra support would mean for devolved nations, on increase in funding to help protect businesses? This short response will only work as well as desired if people are strict about their own behaviour.

[Hilts]

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Its not just Wales Sunak wouldnt pay the 80% until this U turn.

[Rjk]

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Its not just Wales Sunak wouldnt pay the 80% until this U turn.

yep the north of England weren't getting it either, only when London and the south East were in lockdown did.

this has been noticed.

[Hilts]

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Gove has just said the England lockdown could continue past 2/12.

[Vindec]

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Gove has just said the England lockdown could continue past 2/12.

Surely it's the progression of the virus that determines when the lockdown should end and not some arbitrary end date?