Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Rjk]

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And it could just even out as August was well below average. As sad as it always is, people are always going to die of something, sometimes out if the blue, sepsis will be even bigger in the next few years as antibiotics have become overused. Suicides being the biggest killer of men under 45 and you know it’s going to get a lot worse if we don’t get in top of this virus soon.

it has a lot of evening out to do, it would take something remarkable to come out the same as an average year

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

[goats]

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it has a lot of evening out to do, it would take something remarkable to come out the same as an average year


https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

Sure, the tories saw off at least 20,000 by sending them from hospital into the care homes, wouldn’t surprise me if many would have chugged on for a few more years.

[The Lone Gunman]

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And it could just even out as August was well below average.

No sure where you got that notion from, but it's way off the mark. The latest figures released by the ONS (up to and including mid-October) state that 484,206 deaths have been registered in the UK so far this year, which is 55,092 more than the five-year average.

The figures for August were either almost bang on or slightly above the five-year average.

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No sure where you got that notion from, but it's way off the mark. The latest figures released by the ONS (up to and including mid-October) state that 484,206 deaths have been registered in the UK so far this year, which is 55,092 more than the five-year average.

The figures for August were either almost bang on or slightly above the five-year average.

Was it July then? Saw it in some graph out of the billions thrust upon us, so forgive me if not right. If you think about it, so many died in April and May who might well have gone later on, so fewer deaths in the month’s thereafter makes sense.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Was it July then?

No, there’s only been a couple of weeks where the number of deaths has been significantly below the five-year average. None in July or August.

[adz-a32]

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https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-vaccin/britain-starts-accelerated-review-for-astrazenecas-potential-covid-19-vaccine-idUSKBN27H1BD

[goats]

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https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-he...-idUSKBN27H1BD

Can’t come soon enough

[adz-a32]

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Can’t come soon enough

Yeah. Much needed!

[Rjk]

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https://twitter.com/RCunningham_MMM/status/1323015466697347072?s=19

trouble brewing

[Vindec]

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https://twitter.com/RCunningham_MMM/...697347072?s=19

trouble brewing

I don't think the rest of us should pay for the consequences of different arrangements in Scotland if they choose to go a different way when the money for furlough comes from UK coffers and costs the Scottish government nothing. The question here is whether Wales will follow the arrangements in England by extending their firebreak which is due to end next week.

[Vindec]

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Drakeford has just announced on Sky news the Welsh firebreak will end on 9 November and won't be extended. There you have it.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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Drakeford has just announced on Sky news the Welsh firebreak will end on 9 November and won't be extended. There you have it.

I'll be amazed if there aren't additional restrictions though. No local lockdowns but can't see pubs and people visiting houses been opened up just yet.

[Rjk]

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I don't think the rest of us should pay for the consequences of different arrangements in Scotland if they choose to go a different way when the money for furlough comes from UK coffers and costs the Scottish government nothing. The question here is whether Wales will follow the arrangements in England by extending their firebreak which is due to end next week.

So you're fine with the fact that if Wales, Scotland or the North of England have to go into a lockdown then the treasury don't want to know, but if it's the south east of England then they find the money somehow?

This is not a Union.

[Rjk]

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Drakeford has just announced on Sky news the Welsh firebreak will end on 9 November and won't be extended. There you have it.

Yes he was just on 5 live - the "firebreak" will be over, but I'd imagine there will still be some restrictions.
Shops will open up though I'm sure.

There was a guy on before him saying that these things would be more effective if the whole country were doing the same thing, which they put to Mark Drakeford.

His response was quite telling:

They received advice to go into a lockdown in a COBRA meeting - he repeatedly asked for another COBRA meeting to discuss and coordinate a lockdown, but was repeatedly denied, so they had to make the decision alone.

When we went into the lockdown it was promised to be 17 days, and people have put up with very severe restrictions on the understanding that it would be a short time. So they aren't going to go back on their word and extend it.

I tkink that's fair enough really.

[Hilts]

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Of course there should have been a coordinated lockdown to tie in with the half term break.

Boris and co insisted they were not going to do that though.

Drakeford has always said 17 days with tight restrictions.

Would he have made it longer and maybe agreed to the 4 weeks with the lesser restrictions and knowing furlough would be extended.?

Having the lockdown tieing in with half term was absolutely rignt though.