Ukraine Losses (Allegedly)

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Joe Biden says 100.000 Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut.

Wagner must have some size of a private army.100,000 dead implies 300,000 to 400,000 casualties. And he still had enough left over to liberate the place.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Ukraine Losses (Allegedly)

Joe Biden says 100.000 Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut.

Wagner must have some size of a private army.100,000 dead implies 300,000 to 400,000 casualties. And he still had enough left over to liberate the place.

Given that you started this thread with some made up numbers it is little surprise that you can't understand the difference between deaths and casualties.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3982129-white-house-russians-killed-ukraine-bakhmut/

More pertinently though, what do you mean when you talk about the "liberation" of Bakhmut?

[TWGL1]

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Given that you started this thread with some made up numbers it is little surprise that you can't understand the difference between deaths and casualties.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3982129-white-house-russians-killed-ukraine-bakhmut/

More pertinently though, what do you mean when you talk about the "liberation" of Bakhmut?

Yes I know the difference funnily enough , see below article.

https://censor.net/en/news/3419775/russians_lost_more_than_100000_soldiers_in_bakhmut_biden

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Yes I know the difference funnily enough , see below article.

https://censor.net/en/news/3419775/r..._bakhmut_biden

Perhaps you should have got it from the horse's mouth. Here is a tweet with the words Bakhmut lost and 100k casualties and where Biden made a clear separation that was deliberately or wrongly headed 100k lost and obviously repeated by you sometime later. Just as well that you boys don't fall for media spin I guess.

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1660258772017639428

Now you were going to explain why you think Bakhmut has been liberated!

[Wash DC Blue]

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And he still had enough left over to liberate the place.

Bit of a vatnik thing to say?

[TWGL1]

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Perhaps you should have got it from the horse's mouth. Here is a tweet with the words Bakhmut lost and 100k casualties and where Biden made a clear separation that was deliberately or wrongly headed 100k lost and obviously repeated by you sometime later. Just as well that you boys don't fall for media spin I guess.

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1660258772017639428

Now you were going to explain why you think Bakhmut has been liberated!

Media spin , yep that’s what it (and it’s one sided )

Wagner Group claimed it’s been liberated, not my own personal viewpoint but nice try (again)

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Media spin , yep that’s what it (and it’s one sided )

Wagner Group claimed it’s been liberated, not my own personal viewpoint but nice try (again)

So in summary.

Joe Biden didn't say 100.000 Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut. Your statement that it implies 300,000 to 400,000 casualties was based on tosh, but you are not susceptible to media spin.

Similarly when you said "And he still had enough left over to liberate the place" that was not your personal viewpoint but somebody else's and nothing to do with you at all. (typo perhaps)

Out of interest what would you call it?

[TWGL1]

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So in summary.

Joe Biden didn't say 100.000 Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut. Your statement that it implies 300,000 to 400,000 casualties was based on tosh, but you are not susceptible to media spin.

Similarly when you said "And he still had enough left over to liberate the place" that was not your personal viewpoint but somebody else's and nothing to do with you at all. (typo perhaps)

Out of interest what would you call it?

I’ve presented you a link which says 100,000 lost , so on that basis 3/400,000 casualties would match up., but I think there is significant media spin on this war from the start.( I assume you don’t agree) Not taking sides with this one , I’d prefer a peace deal sooner rather than later.

The link you have posted has been released by Ukraine intelligence, so I’d keep an open mind on that from what we know

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I’ve presented you a link which says 100,000 lost , so on that basis 3/400,000 casualties would match up., but I think there is significant media spin on this war from the start.( I assume you don’t agree) Not taking sides with this one , I’d prefer a peace deal sooner rather than later.

The link you have posted has been released by Ukraine intelligence, so I’d keep an open mind on that from what we know

That's what I mean. You present yourself as impervious to confirmation bias from the media then post an unequivocal statement that "Joe Biden says 100.000 Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut" without any kind of sense check on whether it is accurate at all.

Please pass on the Ukrainian intelligence post but are you saying you still think Biden said 100k dead or are you keeping an open mind and might add the word (allegedly) next time you say it?

[TWGL1]

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That's what I mean. You present yourself as impervious to confirmation bias from the media then post an unequivocal statement that "Joe Biden says 100.000 Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut" without any kind of sense check on whether it is accurate at all.

Please pass on the Ukrainian intelligence post but are you saying you still think Biden said 100k dead or are you keeping an open mind and might add the word (allegedly) next time you say it?

The whole thread is titled “allegedly” you absolute whopper

[cyril evans awaydays]

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The whole thread is titled allegedly you absolute whopper

I know, I was just taking the piss that the last time you posted bollocks dressed up as statistics you thought putting the word allegedly after them gave you deniability. This time you stated baldly that Biden said 100k Russians were killed in Bakhmut even though that was bollocks as well. It's almost like you think that because the word allegedly is in the title it gives cloud cover for any old nonsense.

[TWGL1]

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I know, I was just taking the piss that the last time you posted bollocks dressed up as statistics you thought putting the word allegedly after them gave you deniability. This time you stated baldly that Biden said 100k Russians were killed in Bakhmut even though that was bollocks as well. It's almost like you think that because the word allegedly is in the title it gives cloud cover for any old nonsense.

And ? I’ve posted the link stating that and you don’t agree with it , that’s fine , isn’t it.

Here is is again

https://censor.net/en/news/3419775/russians_lost_more_than_100000_soldiers_in_bakhmut_biden

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And ? I’ve posted the link stating that and you don’t agree with it , that’s fine , isn’t it.

Here is is again
https://censor.net/en/news/3419775/r..._bakhmut_biden

So when you said without a link to anything.

Joe Biden says 100.000 Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut.

Wagner must have some size of a private army.100,000 dead implies 300,000 to 400,000 casualties. And he still had enough left over to liberate the place.

You neither thought that Joe Biden said it , nor thought that Bakhmut had been liberated?

Glad you cleared that up!

[TWGL1]

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So when you said without a link to anything.

Joe Biden says 100.000 Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut.

Wagner must have some size of a private army.100,000 dead implies 300,000 to 400,000 casualties. And he still had enough left over to liberate the place.

You neither thought that Joe Biden said it , nor thought that Bakhmut had been liberated?

Glad you cleared that up!

And? If it’s 100,000 casualties or 100,000 dead don’t you think ,it’s about time the whole thing was brought to an end ?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66075786

Very hard to see any positive news from this snippet ….. and that’s what they are admitting on MSM

Could this be why Ursula von der Leyen retracted her statement last November.