Robinson and Colwill.

[BlueArmy 86]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Robinson was angry to come off, throwing his gloves, but I don’t mind that. Bulut made a point of calling him over just after final whistle and they embraced.

Gotta say he’s managed Colwill well. He’s given him about 40 mins today when the games in the balance, so he trusts him, and it’s paid off. I think he’s a confidence player and that’ll do him the world of good.

Not a bad 2 players to rotate, and we’ve got Ramsey to come back ahead of them! Great dilemma for us.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

So since I said Robinson and Colwill should play they've scored 1 each in 2 games that have happened since then. I was criticised for this 'yOu kNoW mOrE tHaN tHe MaNaGeR'

But go on expand on this.

You replied to a guy who wouldn't play Colwill because he felt we're more likely to concede goals. He was talking about the old lazy version of the player. Not the player we saw today. The player who has responded to the manager publicly having a go at him.

[life on mars]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

That talk about Robinson’s attitude would have read much more true after the Watford game. His attitude has been spot on in the last two matches.

Do agree he has began to deliver, think Rambo has effected his chances somewhat and that maybe a contributing factor,??

He's a skillful intellegent player, sadly for him the league is unforgiving, you have to give up ones energies in other departments, ie defending the area between the oppositions penalty box and halfway,, covering chasing, which can effect your natural game as a gifted forward.

Colwill, Tanner and Robo are all wonderful talents question is can we afford to play them together for long periods of the game at the expense of tracking up and down type players. Which the likes of Bowler and Ralls are??

Get the feeling the manager likes to start games cautiously, build a solid defense game then unleash pace as the opposition tire. ?? I Have seen sides go up with that tactic if you can score ??

Hey, we're in Top 6 who would have thought hey, and that's without looking brilliant, that difficult start of the season results now paint a different picture.

[life on mars]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

You replied to a guy who wouldn't play Colwill because he felt we're more likely to concede goals. He was talking about the old lazy version of the player. Not the player we saw today. The player who has responded to the manager publicly having a go at him.

Spot on the manager has shaken them up and he has the players on the bench to support his roll up yer sleeves or else, he has said the same to Tanner and Robo.

My guess is the more skifull players at this level have the bigger ego's.. And harder to handle, not so if you have players in reserve.. Well done the club for providing that position.

[Tuerto]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Do agree he has began to deliver, think Rambo has effected his chances somewhat and that maybe a contributing factor,??

He's a skillful intellegent player, sadly for him the league is unforgiving, you have to give up ones energies in other departments, ie defending the area between the oppositions penalty box and halfway,, covering chasing, which can effect your natural game as a gifted forward.

Colwill, Tanner and Robo are all wonderful talents question is can we afford to play them together for long periods of the game at the expense of tracking up and down type players. Which the likes of Bowler and Ralls are??

Get the feeling the manager likes to start games cautiously, build a solid defense game then unleash pace as the opposition tire. ?? I Have seen sides go up with that tactic if you can score ??

Hey, we're in Top 6 who would have thought hey, and that's without looking brilliant, that difficult start of the season results now paint a different picture.

The manager knows that this team has to work hard. He identified that early. Doesn't mean that he isn't going to introduce more flair as time goes on. At the moment we are a hard working team, because we have to be, we earn results with our work rate. I think that Bulut will get Colwill where he needs to be, as he is doing with Tanner and to a degree with Robinson, He's demanding more from them, which is a good thing. The most pleasing thing about Colwills goal today (For me) was that he tried something that the majority of our players wouldn't, and that was turning over the two defenders. That's a great sign, he's looked more assertive to me this season when i've seen him.

[Doucas]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

You replied to a guy who wouldn't play Colwill because he felt we're more likely to concede goals. He was talking about the old lazy version of the player. Not the player we saw today. The player who has responded to the manager publicly having a go at him.

But there's literally no evidence of us being more likely to concede goals with him on the pitch.

Colwill played exactly the same as he has in the past. Robinson has always been a hard worker I don't know where this nonsense has come up about him being lazy.

There's literally no way I can win this discussion. I say Colwill/Robinson should start when they aren't starting, they finally do start and score as I expected, and somehow I'm still wrong?

I like Bulut but I don't think he's improved them at all, he's just actually played them.

I don't understand this myth that Bulut has improved Tanner either, I saw him play in Whittingham's memorial game and he tore Villa to pieces, I said then he should be starting then but as this club is seemingly incapable of giving young players a proper chance we sent him on loan to York.

When he actually played, as I expected, he has done well.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

But there's literally no evidence of us being more likely to concede goals with him on the pitch.

Colwill played exactly the same as he has in the past. Robinson has always been a hard worker I don't know where this nonsense has come up about him being lazy.

There's literally no way I can win this discussion. I say Colwill/Robinson should start when they aren't starting, they finally do start and score as I expected, and somehow I'm still wrong?

I like Bulut but I don't think he's improved them at all, he's just actually played them.

I don't understand this myth that Bulut has improved Tanner either, I saw him play in Whittingham's memorial game and he tore Villa to pieces, I said then he should be starting then but as this club is seemingly incapable of giving young players a proper chance we sent him on loan to York.

When he actually played, as I expected, he has done well.

It seemed obvious to me Colwill put in more of a shift today than he has previously and is a better player for it. That is down to the manager.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

But there's literally no evidence of us being more likely to concede goals with him on the pitch.

Colwill played exactly the same as he has in the past. Robinson has always been a hard worker I don't know where this nonsense has come up about him being lazy.

There's literally no way I can win this discussion. I say Colwill/Robinson should start when they aren't starting, they finally do start and score as I expected, and somehow I'm still wrong?

I like Bulut but I don't think he's improved them at all, he's just actually played them.

I don't understand this myth that Bulut has improved Tanner either, I saw him play in Whittingham's memorial game and he tore Villa to pieces, I said then he should be starting then but as this club is seemingly incapable of giving young players a proper chance we sent him on loan to York.

When he actually played, as I expected, he has done well.

Colwill didn’t start.

Not sure that affects the point.

Did Bulut push them knowing he needed to use them more, to try and get more from them. Some say yes, some say no. I don’t think anyone needs to be “right”.

Tbh I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone (maybe people have) call Robinson lazy, but had had been poor especially against Watford. He has always been a busy player, worked hard upfront or wide. But I also think as a 10 it takes even more work. As said before as soon as Bulut made the comments if he was a decent manager he would be starting one of them soon for a reaction.

Maybe he got a reaction, maybe they would have done it anyway. CCFC win either way so I’m happy.

Whose right? Who cares? I don’t think anyone knows.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Risky game calling players out in public in this way, especially as by own admission he hasn’t spoken to Robinson first to let him know he’s not happy him. Poor form really.

He does have the touch of the Colin’s about him on that nothing is ever his fault and he’ll happily throw the players under the bus first.

Oh what a nasty Manager, fancy calling players out and then they respond

Lay off the Meths you've had a mare butt!

Just like Pep

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Colwill needs more games and needs to contribute in such a positive way , more often

If he doesn't do this then he's on the subs bench

It's no more complicated than that ?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Colwill needs more games and needs to contribute in such a positive way , more often

If he doesn't do this then he's on the subs bench

It's no more complicated than that ?

Agreed.

[Doucas]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

It seemed obvious to me Colwill put in more of a shift today than he has previously and is a better player for it. That is down to the manager.

That's just not true though?

[Doucas]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Oh what a nasty Manager, fancy calling players out and then they respond

Lay off the Meths you've had a mare butt!

Just like Pep

So did Colwill not get a goal and assist vs Birmingham before he was called out by Bulut?

Do you think maybe the fact Colwill was given more than 15 minutes had something to do with it?

You said Robinson and Colwill shouldn't start, since that statement they've both scored

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

So did Colwill not get a goal and assist vs Birmingham before he was called out by Bulut?

Do you think maybe the fact Colwill was given more than 15 minutes had something to do with it?

You said Robinson and Colwill shouldn't start, since that statement they've both scored

I've said the Manager knows his best team, and how to get more out of them.

Bulut explained to them that to get in his team they needed to start doing more when they haven't got the ball, like he successfully did with Tanner.

Now all three are definitely trying harder to do more defensive work when we don't have the ball, and we are coming through strongly with two clean sheets and a six nil result this week, with Ramsey and O'Dowda out and not a strong recognised centre forward.

Bulut has got those players playing much better for the team and he is reaping the rewards and credit.

With Ramsey, O'Dowda and Kieffer, we look a top three or four team, isn't it nice to have a Manager that clearly knows more than your average Bob Banker

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Agreed.

Exactly, he can be amazing at times, but this is a team effort, and he needs to grab his chances, I'm delighted for him, that was a great goal, and he is certainly trying much harder when we don't have the ball