Historically big clubs

[Keyser Soze]

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We could be a big club , in terms of support , if we had sustained periods in the top flight

There is certainly the population base

But getting up and staying up is the key and unfortunately when we have managed promotion we have completely blown it

I would love to see us as an established big club in my lifetime or the lifetime of youngsters growing up and supporting City

We clearly ain't at the moment but we have to dream

In terms of population base Ipswich, Norwich, Brighton, Middlesborough, Bolton, Wigan , Burnley , Southampton, Stoke , Derby and others all have had longer periods in the top flight than us

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[fingers]

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1993 Leeds won the league ?

It's in living memory

Most of the people who can remember when we won anything are dead

How can you forget us as FAW Premier Cup Winners 2001–02 FFS!!

[jon1959]

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How can you forget us as FAW Premier Cup Winners 2001–02 FFS!!

And the Algarve Cup 2008!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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How can you forget us as FAW Premier Cup Winners 2001–02 FFS!!

Great Days

[poc]

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1993 Leeds won the league ?

It's in living memory

Most of the people who can remember when we won anything are dead

the welsh cup

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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the welsh cup

Not very difficult to win

Although we managed to make it so

[Dembe]

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Is a big club one that has won something or one that has a large fanbase?

When was the last time eg Leeds won anything? or Villa?

This was what go me thinking this morning, a lot of clubs seem to have the label but do absolutely nothing to justify it.

[Dembe]

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Blackpool , Preston , Bolton were big clubs

But not anymore

But Sunderland , Wolves and Wednesday were .......and still are ......if that makes sense ?

Brighton are doing well and it's great for football but Wednesday , Sunderland are huge clubs by comparison

Makes sense.

How long does a clubs history count in their favour though? because a lot of these clubs are clinging onto their status with their attendances and doing **** all else.

[goats]

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Sheff Weds are at the wrong end of the table pulling in crowds of 25k plus.

They've done absolutely nothing for years. Big club?

How far back do we cut in their history?

Forest won the European cup, fantastic achievement but it was 45 years ago, are they still a big club now?

I'm not saying either of these aren't, but I think it would make an interesting discussion.

Who are the big clubs? and who's no longer worthy of their dusty title?

I always look at Wednesday as a big club, they still have legions of fans despite being pretty bad and could easily pull 40,000 in the PL. same as one city club Leeds. I guess if swfc don’t get back there in the next 20 years support will naturally fade as older loyal fans die off.
Always amazes me looking at 80’s attendances of the big clubs, sub 20k for Arsenal, spurs, Sunderland and Newcastle all the time. Everton struggled too early 80’s. Liverpool even 27/28k….crazy how much support has changed in 40 years.

[Dembe]

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I always look at Wednesday as a big club, they still have legions of fans despite being pretty bad and could easily pull 40,000 in the PL. same as one city club Leeds. I guess if swfc don’t get back there in the next 20 years support will naturally fade as older loyal fans die off.
Always amazes me looking at 80’s attendances of the big clubs, sub 20k for Arsenal, spurs, Sunderland and Newcastle all the time. Everton struggled too early 80’s. Liverpool even 27/28k….crazy how much support has changed in 40 years.

This is why we need Eric, he would probably tell us that all attendances were low during that period and back it up with stats.

How long do these clubs get to hold onto the title though? Is there a cut off point or do they just continue to be big clubs forever?

[goats]

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This is why we need Eric, he would probably tell us that all attendances were low during that period and back it up with stats.

How long do these clubs get to hold onto the title though? Is there a cut off point or do they just continue to be big clubs forever?

God knows, football is ruined anyway….are Bournemouth bigger than sheff weds? The money show says yes, anyone with a brain says no

[Dembe]

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God knows, football is ruined anyway….are Bournemouth bigger than sheff weds? The money show says yes, anyone with a brain says no

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I always look at Wednesday as a big club, they still have legions of fans despite being pretty bad and could easily pull 40,000 in the PL. same as one city club Leeds. I guess if swfc don’t get back there in the next 20 years support will naturally fade as older loyal fans die off.
Always amazes me looking at 80’s attendances of the big clubs, sub 20k for Arsenal, spurs, Sunderland and Newcastle all the time. Everton struggled too early 80’s. Liverpool even 27/28k….crazy how much support has changed in 40 years.

The worrying thing is when you look at ours in the eighties

Less than 2500 to watch us on countless occasions

Man City getting 21 k was poor by their standards but enormous by ours

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Makes sense.

How long does a clubs history count in their favour though? because a lot of these clubs are clinging onto their status with their attendances and doing **** all else.

Only in the history books in some cases

Blackpool , Blackburn , Huddersfield, Bolton , Preston even if relatively successful don't get the crowds they did

But clubs like Wednesday , Derby and Wolves will always have a loyal support and remain big clubs, even in the lower leagues

[Dembe]

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Only in the history books in some cases

Blackpool , Blackburn , Huddersfield, Bolton , Preston even if relatively successful don't get the crowds they did

But clubs like Wednesday , Derby and Wolves will always have a loyal support and remain big clubs, even in the lower leagues

How far back into a clubs history is relevant? We won the FA Cup nearly 100 years ago, that surely means nothing now, same as forest winning the EC 40 years ago, what relevance has that got today for them to be "a big club"

surely theres got to be a cut off