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  • Trust statement on manager situation.

    Dear Member,

    You will recall that I emailed you on 6th April regarding the situation in respect of the position of Manager. In that email I informed you that, at that time, the decision regarding the future of Erol Bulut had been in the hands of Vincent Tan for some time. The Trust made no observation as to who should be appointed to the post only that a decision should be made speedily to remove uncertainties and disquiet amongst fans.

    Well, here we are, more than 7 weeks later with no sign of any progress on this issue. There has been little or no meaningful information from the club on this matter leading to rumour, speculation and frustration amongst the fanbase.

    The absence of footballing expertise at Board level and the intransigence of Vincent Tan in his views on the appointment of a Director of Football or similar continues to be a concern, especially in the current circumstances.

    I think it is fair to say that an extended contract for the current manager does not necessarily have 100% support amongst the fans. There are concerns over style of football and tactics but there seems to be a degree of unanimity amongst the fanbase that the current situation is unacceptable and should be resolved one way or another as soon as possible.

    Keith Morgan

    Chair

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    Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

    This Club ! It's like a corpse with all signs of live extinguished..

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      Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
      Dear Member,

      You will recall that I emailed you on 6th April regarding the situation in respect of the position of Manager. In that email I informed you that, at that time, the decision regarding the future of Erol Bulut had been in the hands of Vincent Tan for some time. The Trust made no observation as to who should be appointed to the post only that a decision should be made speedily to remove uncertainties and disquiet amongst fans.

      Well, here we are, more than 7 weeks later with no sign of any progress on this issue. There has been little or no meaningful information from the club on this matter leading to rumour, speculation and frustration amongst the fanbase.

      The absence of footballing expertise at Board level and the intransigence of Vincent Tan in his views on the appointment of a Director of Football or similar continues to be a concern, especially in the current circumstances.

      I think it is fair to say that an extended contract for the current manager does not necessarily have 100% support amongst the fans. There are concerns over style of football and tactics but there seems to be a degree of unanimity amongst the fanbase that the current situation is unacceptable and should be resolved one way or another as soon as possible.

      Keith Morgan

      Chair
      Are these lines really needed from the trust?

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      • #4
        Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

        Originally posted by Der Kaiser View Post
        Are these lines really needed from the trust?
        I think they are, they’re showing that, whether you’re for or against Bulut continuing as manager, there is a desire from all fans for the situation to be sorted out one way or another as quickly as possible. How can any supporter believe that the current impasse is good for the club?

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        • #5
          Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

          Originally posted by Der Kaiser View Post
          Are these lines really needed from the trust?
          Possibly not. I think the problem was last time radio Wales were claiming the trust were demanding a new contract for Bulut when they really were just asking for clarity on the situation.

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          • #6
            Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

            Originally posted by Der Kaiser View Post
            Are these lines really needed from the trust?
            Why not? They reflect the views of the wider fanbase. A fanbase that is divided over Bulut.

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              Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

              Originally posted by Der Kaiser View Post
              Are these lines really needed from the trust?
              They can't be described as inaccurate.

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              • #8
                Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

                The lack of clarity from the club shows how much we are missing leadership at the top.
                An owner who lives in Malaysia, a chairman in Monaco and a CEO who only works 1 day a week.
                I genuinely fear for the long term.
                Look at Wrexham. Owners in USA and appoint a very well respected CEO to run what was a non league club 2 years ago.
                The supporters can see it, why the hell can't Tan. Surely he cant be a complete fool to have become a billionaire.

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                • #9
                  Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

                  Originally posted by Der Kaiser View Post
                  Are these lines really needed from the trust?
                  It's absolutely necessary, because the last time the Trust issued a statement requesting clarity from the club on the manager situation, it was framed by the pro-Bulut media outlets as being a plea for him to be given a new contract when it was nothing of the sort.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

                    Originally posted by Garth Blue View Post
                    Why not? They reflect the views of the wider fanbase. A fanbase that is divided over Bulut.
                    I don't even think the fan base is divided to be honest, a lot of that rhetoric is taken from a few messageboards with how many posters out of our total fan base? I guarantee when the club announce his extension the response will be overwhelmingly positive on social media or if he leaves extremely negative, which will have a far far larger sample size of our fan base than CCMB, *****' board and the other one.

                    A relatively small group of 50+ year olds throwing their toys out of the pram because they don't like the football on offer does not mean the 'fan base is split'.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

                      Originally posted by Der Kaiser View Post
                      I don't even think the fan base is divided to be honest
                      I don't know any City fans personally who are totally behind Bulut. Most of them seem, from what I read and hear, to just want an end to the dithering and if Bulut carries on, then fair enough. That's not an endorsement of him, though.

                      There are probably other fans who don't know of anyone who doesn't want him to stay.

                      Are the vast majority really in favour of him staying? I doubt it very much. Some want him to stay only because they fear who Tan and the board could bring in next.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

                        Originally posted by Der Kaiser View Post
                        I don't even think the fan base is divided to be honest, a lot of that rhetoric is taken from a few messageboards with how many posters out of our total fan base? I guarantee when the club announce his extension the response will be overwhelmingly positive on social media or if he leaves extremely negative, which will have a far far larger sample size of our fan base than CCMB, *****' board and the other one.

                        A relatively small group of 50+ year olds throwing their toys out of the pram because they don't like the football on offer does not mean the 'fan base is split'.
                        I am not sure where you sit in the ground or who you talk to after matches, BUT the football served up last season was in the main dreadful. Yes we scraped some very valuable away wins, however the majority of games at CCS were poor. The football on offer apart from three or four games was dire. That is why a lot of the fan base are hesitant to support Bulut, for fear of more of the same.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

                          Originally posted by Der Kaiser View Post
                          I don't even think the fan base is divided to be honest, a lot of that rhetoric is taken from a few messageboards with how many posters out of our total fan base? I guarantee when the club announce his extension the response will be overwhelmingly positive on social media or if he leaves extremely negative, which will have a far far larger sample size of our fan base than CCMB, *****' board and the other one.

                          A relatively small group of 50+ year olds throwing their toys out of the pram because they don't like the football on offer does not mean the 'fan base is split'.
                          Hard to argue with any of this.

                          Yet another poll on here ( regarding Bulut) had less than 50 votes between them

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                          • #14
                            Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

                            Originally posted by The Prophet of Doom View Post
                            I am not sure where you sit in the ground or who you talk to after matches, BUT the football served up last season was in the main dreadful. Yes we scraped some very valuable away wins, however the majority of games at CCS were poor. The football on offer apart from three or four games was dire. That is why a lot of the fan base are hesitant to support Bulut, for fear of more of the same.
                            That's where we must differ as the majority of people I speak to are happy with him to carry on, and are acutely aware that he was A) Managing under an embargo for his first summer window, B) Managing the remnants of multiple other managers squads and C) Working with an awkward ownership - the latter two being parameters that any other manager if they were to come in this summer would be working with.

                            Genuinely staggered that after a few years of near misses, some fans first reaction to Bulut is 'the football isn't pretty' and not 'yeah fair play he got us right up the table on first stab'. Football is a results based industry and he got the necessary results, simple as that - with what many of our fans on this board think is a completely subpar championship squad. Doesn't seem like he can win in the eyes of some.

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                              Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

                              Originally posted by Der Kaiser View Post
                              That's where we must differ as the majority of people I speak to are happy with him to carry on, and are acutely aware that he was A) Managing under an embargo for his first summer window, B) Managing the remnants of multiple other managers squads and C) Working with an awkward ownership - the latter two being parameters that any other manager if they were to come in this summer would be working with.

                              Genuinely staggered that after a few years of near misses, some fans first reaction to Bulut is 'the football isn't pretty' and not 'yeah fair play he got us right up the table on first stab'. Football is a results based industry and he got the necessary results, simple as that - with what many of our fans on this board think is a completely subpar championship squad. Doesn't seem like he can win in the eyes of some.
                              Absolutely

                              I agree with the trust statement but the idea that the fan base is split to the extent it is on here is daft

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