Trust statement on manager situation.

[olderblue]

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I don't even think the fan base is divided to be honest, a lot of that rhetoric is taken from a few messageboards with how many posters out of our total fan base? I guarantee when the club announce his extension the response will be overwhelmingly positive on social media or if he leaves extremely negative, which will have a far far larger sample size of our fan base than CCMB, *****' board and the other one.

A relatively small group of 50+ year olds throwing their toys out of the pram because they don't like the football on offer does not mean the 'fan base is split'.

As a straw poll, our group of 9, of which two of us are over 50+ are split where 2 of them think we need consistency and therefore Bulut should stay
and they argue that he’s done well in difficult circumstances, the rest feel, he’s a one trick pony with only one way of playing
Most of the others are in there 30’s and two a bit younger than that.

I don’t think anyone watching what was served up last year can say they were really impressed with the, tactics, or style that we watched last season, it

If it’s Bulut then the only hope is that he has an alternative approach to each game and it’s not a one size fits all for every game

Players usually play in a system, and that’s the way the coach has decided will produce the best result

The facts are he produced 19 wins out of 46 games

It’s also a fact, that for most of the games it was like watching paint dry

Last season we left early on lots of occasions to head back to the pub

I can’t remember leaving early to many times before last season, in fact I was only joking about a game the other day against Sheffield United around 1977-78 where we were dicked 6-1? and John Buchanan scored our consolation goal and the group I was with still stayed until the end

We have some decent players, but we have a coach who isn’t up to the task imho, and a lot of fans I talk to think along the same lines

If it isn’t Bulut, which big club do you think he will be leaving us for?

[William Treseder]

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My stance on this, is although the finishing position was respectable, the football on show was dire more often than not.
I’ve said before, if it was up to me I’d give him another season, as I don’t think he’d relegate us, but I’d like to see his if his style of play improves.
If he’s not happy with a 1 yr contract, I’d tell him to sling his hook.
Anything more than a 1 yr contract while the jury’s out would be sheer folly

[Ninian1962]

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Invites them to meetings? Not out of choice it seems.

Just out of interest, on what do you base your "not out of choice it seems" comment?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Just out of interest, on what do you base your "not out of choice it seems" comment?

He's basing it on the fact he's making it up

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Invites them to meetings? Not out of choice it seems.

Well at present the club are not forced to talk to any fans groups as far as I am aware

Either way in the absence of a direct phone line I don't see what else the trust can do and what fans who are not members and seem to complain the most expect from the trust

They have stated the obvious that the situation is dragging on and needs to be resolved

[the other bob wilson]

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How many seasons watching Cardiff City since the mid 80’s have been classed value for money , from memory about 10 seasons out of 40. Watching your favourite football team isn’t something that can be considered VFM unless you are a top six side I’d say.

What’s peoples expectations for next year , I’d say the same league position as this year would be a respectable one. Most teams in the Championship play in a way that doesn’t involve much skill , energy ,creativity and enjoyment, it’s all about the result.

To answer your question at the start, about four seasons in the nineties, nearly all of the noughties, most of the first half of the tens and at least a couple in the second half plus none in the twenties.

You say it’s all about the result, we’ve lost more than we’ve won at home in the last four seasons while playing crap football most of the time.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I think a few of our fans are getting too precious and need to move on to Man City! CCFC is never going to satisfy and I'd imagine quite a lot would be on the Man City message boards moaning about Pep and the lack of shots, compared to X,Y Z year, criticising his tactics and that he doesn't have a plan F if A-E isn't working well enough.

[Tuerto]

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Are these lines really needed from the trust?

It's non committal, and i get that. There's not many things out there that would garner 100% support. I think that the words that you have highlighted are saying that by releasing the statement, doesn't mean that the Trust want Bulut to stay. If they hadn't said anything it would have been dressed up as pro Bulut. It could have been worded better , although it's factually correct, as it would be with probably 95% of managers in a job right now.

[Tuerto]

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I think a few of our fans are getting too precious and need to move on to Man City, CCFC is never going to satisfy and I'd imagine quite a lot would be on the Man City message boards moaning about Pep and the lack of shots, compared to X,Y Z year.

Nah, they just want to watch something that gets them a bit excited, shows some creativity, allows players to express themselves, even sporadically. We are talking City fans here, Never in my life time have they been precious over the style of play or analytical, most either don't give a shit or don't really care what style we play, as a fan base we're pretty easy to please. I don't think that's a particularly good thing, but it's been that way since Hammam came to the club. When we were in the dungeon we would batter players, managers etc for the performance and tactics. Which, ironically, wasn't that fair, because most of them were on £200 a week and couldn't play. We're just happy to take it now.

[the other bob wilson]

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I think a few of our fans are getting too precious and need to move on to Man City! CCFC is never going to satisfy and I'd imagine quite a lot would be on the Man City message boards moaning about Pep and the lack of shots, compared to X,Y Z year, criticising his tactics and that he doesn't have a plan F if A-E isn't working well enough.

So am I being “precious” when I say that our homes games against QPR, Watford, West Brom, Millwall, Birmingham, Leicester, Leeds, Preston, Blackburn, Huddersfield, Sunderland, Hull and Middlesbrough offered virtually nothing in the way of good football from City? That’s thirteen out of twenty three games where we played really poorly, put that together with the defensive attitude we played with in the huge majority of those twenty three and I go back to the point that unless the object of the exercise was to have a drink and a meet up with your mates, a season ticket was poor value for money in 23/24.

[life on mars]

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Are these lines really needed from the trust?

Let's have a vote .. on yer

[life on mars]

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So am I being “precious” when I say that our homes games against QPR, Watford, West Brom, Millwall, Birmingham, Leicester, Leeds, Preston, Blackburn, Huddersfield, Sunderland, Hull and Middlesbrough offered virtually nothing in the way of good football from City? That’s thirteen out of twenty three games where we played really poorly, put that together with the defensive attitude we played with in the huge majority of those twenty three and I go back to the point that unless the object of the exercise was to have a drink and a meet up with your mates, a season ticket was poor value for money in 23/24.

All of those teams had better investment or existing quality players and strikers.

Your only as good as your tools.

We have not had a striker since Moore and every manager since his departure has felt that impact.

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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Barring a few games where there was excitement for relatively short periods, last season was utter garbage in terms of entertainment. I really struggle to understand those who claim otherwise. IMO it was the worst extended period of boring football I can remember for a very long time. Even if you think Mick's era, etc was worse, that doesn't make last season anything other than utter bilge.

I can only assume that those who try to tell us it was OK really are doing so because to admit otherwise might lead us to think they want Bulut to leave? No idea. It's baffling in any case.

[the other bob wilson]

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All of those teams had better investment or existing quality players and strikers.

Your only as good as your tools.

We have not had a striker since Moore and every manager since his departure has felt that impact.

Rubbish, two of the teams were relegated and another one only stayed up on the final day of the season.

[Dave Blue]

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I don't even think the fan base is divided to be honest, a lot of that rhetoric is taken from a few messageboards with how many posters out of our total fan base? I guarantee when the club announce his extension the response will be overwhelmingly positive on social media or if he leaves extremely negative, which will have a far far larger sample size of our fan base than CCMB, *****' board and the other one.

A relatively small group of 50+ year olds throwing their toys out of the pram because they don't like the football on offer does not mean the 'fan base is split'.

I’m not sure what anybody’s age has to do with it but one thing is clear, the younger empty vessels in the Canton who ‘want him to stay’ are clearly very easily pleased with utter crap.