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  • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

    Originally posted by life on mars View Post
    Pepe of Portugal great competitor 41 .!!!!!

    CR7 how fit are theses players .
    Ronaldo probably fitter than most, the shape he keeps himself in.

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    • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

      Great game this.

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        The inability of Portugal to cross the ball is telling .

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        • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

          Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
          Great game this.
          Really??? Don't think I will bother to stay up for extra time. Am I the only one who doesn't rate Mbappe....or Kroos for that matter.

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          • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

            Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
            Really??? Don't think I will bother to stay up for extra time. Am I the only one who doesn't rate Mbappe....or Kroos for that matter.
            You maybe in the minority .

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            • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

              Originally posted by Dembe View Post
              Ronaldo probably fitter than most, the shape he keeps himself in.
              Freaky fit

              As is Pepe.

              Very driven dedicated people .

              Youngsters should take note .

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              • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

                After watching today's Q/F matches, thinking of England being favourites for the Euros is like Accrington Stanley being made favourites to win the Champion's League.

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                • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

                  France into a semi final scoring only 2 goals !!!!!
                  Plus whatever the score was in the Belgium game
                  (Wasn’t one an own goal as well ? )

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                  • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

                    Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
                    After watching today's Q/F matches, thinking of England being favourites for the Euros is like Accrington Stanley being made favourites to win the Champion's League.
                    England are not favourites. Spain are, followed by France, who were poor against Portugal and have looked nothing special throughout the tournament and yet are in the semis.

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                    • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

                      Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                      England are not favourites. Spain are, followed by France, who were poor against Portugal and have looked nothing special throughout the tournament and yet are in the semis.
                      They definitely were before the tournament started and some bookies still had them there once they realised how relatively easy their path to the final was.

                      The point I was trying to make is that the football we witnessed from Spain in particular and Germany is so far removed from the so called football England play that it is hard to imagine why England were ever rated so highly. Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing but seeing how these other teams pass and move makes you realise how over-hyped English footballers are.

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                      • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

                        Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
                        They definitely were before the tournament started and some bookies still had them there once they realised how relatively easy their path to the final was.

                        The point I was trying to make is that the football we witnessed from Spain in particular and Germany is so far removed from the so called football England play that it is hard to imagine why England were ever rated so highly. Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing but seeing how these other teams pass and move makes you realise how over-hyped English footballers are.
                        It’s not the English footballers that are over-hyped. It’s the chances of a national team that is hamstrung by an ultra cautious manager and an unreasonable weight of expectation.

                        Kane was comfortably the top scorer in the Bundesliga this season. Foden was the player of the year in the multi-national Premier League. Bellingham was one of the stand-out players for the European champions. The England squad is full of top-class talent and many of the players in it would walk into most of the other top European sides. The biggest problem is the manager doesn’t really know what to do with them.

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                        • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

                          They were favourites for 2 reasons - the volume of bets placed on them is disproportionate to the other countries and bookies want punters to bet on others.
                          Being on the 'easier' side of the draw, the better teams on the other side of the draw would knock each other out.

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                          • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

                            The ‘harder’ side of the draw was brutal. Four teams that are would be finalists, little wonder the approach was so cagey. Over cautious, wary that one dropped bollock and you’ve conceded. Not one of the teams were that much better than the other that they’d be in the slightest bit cavalier. Interesting, damage limitation football rather than an ‘up & at ‘em’ approach. Understandable I s’pose.

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                            • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

                              Anyone else think that watching the Portugal/France game last night was like watching 10 v 11?
                              As good as we all know Ronaldo has been, he was absolutely useless last night (as he has been all tournament)
                              Can’t remember him contributing anything of note to the game.
                              There’s something sad about watching a once great sportsman dying on his arse.like a boxer who takes on one fight too many.
                              It’s difficult, as Portugal may have won last night if they’d played a different striker from the start, but as country and squad, dropping Ronaldo was always gonna be the big issue.
                              We would have felt the same if it were Bale in that position.
                              To be a winner, you have to have a ruthless streak, as well as the talent. I feel England will go down the same route as Portugal, with the Southgate issue.
                              They have the squad, the draw and the climate to take this tournament by the scruff of the neck, but in Southgate, they have a manager who is pathetically weak and scared of his own shadow.
                              My feeling is that if Portugal and England had been a bit braver, one of them could have lifted this trophy. I know England are still in it, but I’ll be amazed if they win it with Southgate in charge.

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                              • Re: EUROS thread. The quarter finals

                                It’s difficult, as Portugal may have won last night if they’d played a different striker from the start, but as country and squad, dropping Ronaldo was always gonna be the big issue

                                As Splott Parker pointed out, if they’d dropped Ronaldo, he’d taken his ball home

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