EUROS FINAL. FT: ENGLAND 1 - 2 SPAIN

[Swiss Peter]

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England haven’t even come close to a performance that matches their attacking potential yet and they’re in the semi-finals. I don’t believe they’ll win it, but if they can actually start playing to their natural abilities, then who knows?

England's individual talents way exceed that of the Swiss, but I still thought the Swiss were the better team - not just today, but throughout the tournament. I think England could win it if they start to click. I wouldn't be surprised.

[William Treseder]

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England haven’t even come close to a performance that matches their attacking potential yet and they’re in the semi-finals. I don’t believe they’ll win it, but if they can actually start playing to their natural abilities, then who knows?

Are we kidding our selves on ?
On paper, yes, it does look like a top class squad, and there is no doubting the players have bundles of ability, but they are starting to look like a complete enigma. Personally I think Southgate is useless, but I’m starting to wonder if there is a manager on this planet that could getting them playing like an unstoppable attacking machine. It’s mind boggling.

[the other bob wilson]

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That goal had been coming.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Are we kidding our selves on ?
On paper, yes, it does look like a top class squad, and there is no doubting the players have bundles of ability, but they are starting to look like a complete enigma. Personally I think Southgate is useless, but I’m starting to wonder if there is a manager on this planet that could getting them playing like an unstoppable attacking machine. It’s mind boggling.

Excluding Bellingham, it's a PL eleven on the pitch. They don't play like that in the PL, at least not that sluggishly. It really was mostly walking pace tonight, and actually almost came to a complete standstill for long periods later on.

[the other bob wilson]

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I thought that was England’s best performance so far, but, apart from their goal, when did they look like scoring? Pickford was the busier keeper, Switzerland hit the woodwork and wasted a few very promising situations by taking wrong options, whereas England had plenty of possession in front of the Swiss, but they were Cardiff City like in terms of the speed and accuracy that they moved the ball.

England have been like that all tournament and I honestly haven’t a clue what Southgate is trying to do with a team that was free scoring four and five years ago under his management - he’s got better attacking players now than he had then and yet they’re looking so ordinary going forward.

[BLUETIT]

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That goal had been coming.

Like all the other so called “big teams”, the Dutch are to slow in their build up !

All this tippy tappy triangle nonsense

PS:——- but they revert to the big lump up front and pump it into him

[splott parker]

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Excluding Bellingham, it's a PL eleven on the pitch. They don't play like that in the PL, at least not that sluggishly. It really was mostly walking pace tonight, and actually almost came to a complete standstill for long periods later on.

And Kane, he’s not a Premier League player now.

[Henry Hill]

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Its going to end up France v England final, two teams who have absolutely stunk the place out.

[the other bob wilson]

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Turkey have gone to pieces in the last ten minutes, looking like England v Netherlands Semi Final.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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Are we kidding our selves on ?
On paper, yes, it does look like a top class squad, and there is no doubting the players have bundles of ability, but they are starting to look like a complete enigma. Personally I think Southgate is useless, but I’m starting to wonder if there is a manager on this planet that could getting them playing like an unstoppable attacking machine. It’s mind boggling.

I'm starting to think their players aren't even that good.

We've been brainwashed by the marketing wizzkids at Sky that keep ramming down our throats that the PL is the best around and the players are the best.

Is it just familiarity in them that makes us think they are decent? I know a few on here watch every game of football across Europe but I don't know hardly any players from other nations but they all seem just as capable as the English lot.

[The Lone Gunman]

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I'm starting to think their players aren't even that good.

You’re wrong. Most of them are, as they demonstrate for their clubs on a frequent basis. Foden is a case in point. Premier League player of the year, Man City player of the year, looking nothing special for England.

This is nothing to do with Sky marketing and everything to do with an international management and coaching set-up that doesn’t know how to get the best out of the players it has available to it.

[BLUETIT]

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Like all the other so called “big teams”, the Dutch are to slow in their build up !

All this tippy tappy triangle nonsense

PS:——- but they revert to the big lump up front and pump it into him

Just watched it on record (Mrs took over the tele), told you, big fella up front and then win .

All this fannying about in triangles

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I'm starting to think their players aren't even that good.

We've been brainwashed by the marketing wizzkids at Sky that keep ramming down our throats that the PL is the best around and the players are the best.

Is it just familiarity in them that makes us think they are decent? I know a few on here watch every game of football across Europe but I don't know hardly any players from other nations but they all seem just as capable as the English lot.

The Premier League isn't as great as they think

And nor are the England team

I mean Modric is a truly world class player

England have a huge player base but not one of them can hold a light to the best in Europe like him

They can definitely win this though despite being fur coat and no knickers

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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You’re wrong. Most of them are, as they demonstrate for their clubs on a frequent basis. Foden is a case in point. Premier League player of the year, Man City player of the year, looking nothing special for England.

This is nothing to do with Sky marketing and everything to do with an international management and coaching set-up that doesn’t know how to get the best out of the players it has available to it.

If foden is Premier league player of the year but looks below par in the euros then clearly that award is a load of cobblers

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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If foden is Premier league player of the year but looks below par in the euros then clearly that award is a load of cobblers

There could be a load of reasons why a player looks below par playing for an international side. Messi didn't always light up world cups yet was one of the best players of all time. No disputing that.